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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 09:27 AM
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What ever is the cheapest 80-90w on the shelf. I never did fall for the snake oil, high performance, high priced bull ****. Never had a failure and I've been riding over 50 years.
Worked in the farm equipment business my whole life. Up to 300 hp tractors working a full day in the field, with 4000 psi hydraulics don't run that crap either.
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 09:55 AM
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The reason Baker recommends Spectro over say Mobil 1 which are both GL-5 lubes.
Is that Spectro adds buffers to protect bright metals. Mobil 1 doesn't have these buffers. So if you want a GL-5 lube and your tranny has bright metal parts, then your better off using the Spectro.
Here is an interesting article written by Bert Baker about the advantages of GL-5 lube in your tranny.
Does all this matter. You be the judge.
http://bakerdrivetrain.com/wordpress...ders-Baker.pdf
 

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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bdtaylor1979
So do you think it would be worth trying spectro 6 or redline shock proof or something like that? If they don't help it shift better, would there be any other benefits to using the more expensive synthetic gear oil in the transmission?
What do you mean by "shift better"? If your bike's transmission is not shifting correctly, you should take it to a dealer and have a mechanic check it out. If it's just kind of noisy and clunky, that's normal for a Harley. If smooth, quiet shifting is really important for you, you should go test ride some other bikes. I could make my old GSXR 1100 Suzuki sound like it had an automatic transmission, but that takes more effort with my Road King, and it still makes some noise.
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RK4ME

What do you mean by "shift better"? If your bike's transmission is not shifting correctly, you should take it to a dealer and have a mechanic check it out. If it's just kind of noisy and clunky, that's normal for a Harley. If smooth, quiet shifting is really important for you, you should go test ride some other bikes. I could make my old GSXR 1100 Suzuki sound like it had an automatic transmission, but that takes more effort with my Road King, and it still makes some noise.
What I mean is, other people on here have said that they put X gear oil in their transmission and it helped with the noisey harley transmission and it shifted smoother. I'm ok with the noisey trans, just wondering if there is any benefit to running the synthetic gear oils if they don't help with the typical harley noisey trans.
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon195
The reason Baker recommends Spectro over say Mobil 1 which are both GL-5 lubes.
Is that Spectro adds buffers to protect bright metals. Mobil 1 doesn't have these buffers. So if you want a GL-5 lube and your tranny has bright metal parts, then your better off using the Spectro.
Here is an interesting article written by Bert Baker about the advantages of GL-5 lube in your tranny.
Does all this matter. You be the judge.
http://bakerdrivetrain.com/wordpress...ders-Baker.pdf
Nice story, but he doesn't explain the difference between motor oil and motorcycle oil, and how unit-construction motorcycle transmissions keep running forever with (dirty) motorcycle oil - not GL-5 lube. I'm not knockin' Spectro 6, but I'd feel just as safe with Mobil 1 V-Twin in my Road King's transmission, since it gets changed at least once a year.
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bdtaylor1979
What I mean is, other people on here have said that they put X gear oil in their transmission and it helped with the noisey harley transmission and it shifted smoother. I'm ok with the noisey trans, just wondering if there is any benefit to running the synthetic gear oils if they don't help with the typical harley noisey trans.
It probably doesn't hurt to run synthetic gear oil in a Harley transmission, although some would say you're wasting money by running the fancy stuff. I ran Valvoline non-syn 80W 90 gear lube in my Airhead BMW transmissions and final drives for many years and never had a problem, although I now run Mobil1 75W 90 gear lube in my Beemer and Harley. YMMV
 
Old Jun 28, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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The dealership puts in whatever they have on hand I guess. So I don't have a clue what it is.
Sorry in advance Phil but the clowns in my head can not resist

Patch to wallet bike in just a few decades

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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RK4ME

It probably doesn't hurt to run synthetic gear oil in a Harley transmission, although some would say you're wasting money by running the fancy stuff. I ran Valvoline non-syn 80W 90 gear lube in my Airhead BMW transmissions and final drives for many years and never had a problem, although I now run Mobil1 75W 90 gear lube in my Beemer and Harley. YMMV
Ok, I will keep that in mind. I currently have mobil 1 75w140 in there now but will probably go back to mobil 1 75w90 next time since it is half the price of the 75w140 and is still synthetic.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RK4ME
Nice story, but he doesn't explain the difference between motor oil and motorcycle oil, and how unit-construction motorcycle transmissions keep running forever with (dirty) motorcycle oil - not GL-5 lube. I'm not knockin' Spectro 6, but I'd feel just as safe with Mobil 1 V-Twin in my Road King's transmission, since it gets changed at least once a year.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Your Road King isn't a "unit-construction" motorcycle. You should take advantage of that by using an oil that is best suited for each application.
 
Old Jun 29, 2014 | 04:59 AM
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I just put Lucas 75/90 full syn in my softail yesterday before heading to a rally. I'm not sure if it was my imagination, but once I got down there and in hot and heavy 'rally' traffic, the shifting seemed actually a little harder than it had been.
 



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