What Went Wrong?
Road Warrior
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
She says "Do not look forward, do not look left" as she turns her head and looks to the right.
Basically, the idea is to get more weight to the inside of the turn. The more weight you shift to the inside, the less motorcycle weight is needed. Meaning the less the bike has to lean. This will allow faster corner speed with less lean angle. Although the body position on a cruiser is different, the concept is the same. I do this when riding any bike. It becomes a natural reflex after time.
Road Captain
Joined: May 2011
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From: DELMARVA
Have It YOUR Way
What the rider did wrong in the video is how he set up his bike for riding. He LOWERED an alreadly too low motorcycle and it scraped dangerously along the road and eventually flipped his rear end right off the bike.
Harley sells motorcycles that are set up wrong on purpose to make more sales. They discovered if they tune the bike wrong and forget about safety and handling they can get short little riders with short stumpy legs to BUY their huge motorcycle IF they can touch their little bitty toes on the ground. Presto! More SALES.
Then the not-so-intelligent "custom bike add-on doo-dad" guys jumped on the bandwagon and lowered the bikes even MORE. Because they could BUY some gadget doo-dad , slap it on their bike, LOWER it and declare "I HAVE A CUSTOM."
The only time you see a low Harley that works even CLOSE to correctly is with a solid Hardtail which does not have any up and down travel in the rear because it has NO shocks in the first place. THESE bikes can be a little bit lower without crashing.
But LOWERING a shock mounted motorcycle which was sold set up TOO LOW in the first place?
I don't know. Darwinian natural selection will eventually purge us of all the bad designs out there?
Probably not. Last weekend I was on my sportbike and a hairy Harley guy RACED me through the curves using 12" ape-hangers and no shield. And he was doing over 100 through the corners.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.
So I give UP. Do what you want to do. I realize some of you get a thrill from DELIBERATELY setting up dangerous bikes in the first place. It is your THING.
I just hope my buddies will stop dying at such an alarming rate from bad setups. I am still not over the last one which was caused by scraping his bike and flipping it head on into a bridge abutment.
Carry on.
Harley sells motorcycles that are set up wrong on purpose to make more sales. They discovered if they tune the bike wrong and forget about safety and handling they can get short little riders with short stumpy legs to BUY their huge motorcycle IF they can touch their little bitty toes on the ground. Presto! More SALES.
Then the not-so-intelligent "custom bike add-on doo-dad" guys jumped on the bandwagon and lowered the bikes even MORE. Because they could BUY some gadget doo-dad , slap it on their bike, LOWER it and declare "I HAVE A CUSTOM."
The only time you see a low Harley that works even CLOSE to correctly is with a solid Hardtail which does not have any up and down travel in the rear because it has NO shocks in the first place. THESE bikes can be a little bit lower without crashing.
But LOWERING a shock mounted motorcycle which was sold set up TOO LOW in the first place?
I don't know. Darwinian natural selection will eventually purge us of all the bad designs out there?
Probably not. Last weekend I was on my sportbike and a hairy Harley guy RACED me through the curves using 12" ape-hangers and no shield. And he was doing over 100 through the corners.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.
So I give UP. Do what you want to do. I realize some of you get a thrill from DELIBERATELY setting up dangerous bikes in the first place. It is your THING.
I just hope my buddies will stop dying at such an alarming rate from bad setups. I am still not over the last one which was caused by scraping his bike and flipping it head on into a bridge abutment.
Carry on.
Last edited by rleedeuce; Oct 9, 2014 at 12:27 PM.
Obvious over-reaching. When trying to be cool goes wrong. Trying to ride that bike like its a sportster or an actual sport bike is like bringing a 78 Buick to the track and trying to keep up with a bunch Ferrari's. Not wise, and I doubt he'll do it again.
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He got on a motorcycle instead of his 10-speed bike. This idiot shouldn't be allowed near *anything* mechanical.
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From: Directly above the center of the Earth
What the rider did wrong in the video is how he set up his bike for riding. He LOWERED an alreadly too low motorcycle and it scraped dangerously along the road and eventually flipped his rear end right off the bike.
Harley sells motorcycles that are set up wrong on purpose to make more sales. They discovered if they tune the bike wrong and forget about safety and handling they can get short little riders with short stumpy legs to BUY their huge motorcycle IF they can touch their little bitty toes on the ground. Presto! More SALES.
Then the not-so-intelligent "custom bike add-on doo-dad" guys jumped on the bandwagon and lowered the bikes even MORE. Because they could BUY some gadget doo-dad , slap it on their bike, LOWER it and declare "I HAVE A CUSTOM."
The only time you see a low Harley that works even CLOSE to correctly is with a solid Hardtail which does not have any up and down travel in the rear because it has NO shocks in the first place. THESE bikes can be a little bit lower without crashing.
But LOWERING a shock mounted motorcycle which was sold set up TOO LOW in the first place?
I don't know. Darwinian natural selection will eventually purge us of all the bad designs out there?
Probably not. Last weekend I was on my sportbike and a hairy Harley guy RACED me through the curves using 12" ape-hangers and no shield. And he was doing over 100 through the corners.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.
So I give UP. Do what you want to do. I realize some of you get a thrill from DELIBERATELY setting up dangerous bikes in the first place. It is your THING.
I just hope my buddies will stop dying at such an alarming rate from bad setups. I am still not over the last one which was caused by scraping his bike and flipping it head on into a bridge abutment.
Carry on.
Harley sells motorcycles that are set up wrong on purpose to make more sales. They discovered if they tune the bike wrong and forget about safety and handling they can get short little riders with short stumpy legs to BUY their huge motorcycle IF they can touch their little bitty toes on the ground. Presto! More SALES.
Then the not-so-intelligent "custom bike add-on doo-dad" guys jumped on the bandwagon and lowered the bikes even MORE. Because they could BUY some gadget doo-dad , slap it on their bike, LOWER it and declare "I HAVE A CUSTOM."
The only time you see a low Harley that works even CLOSE to correctly is with a solid Hardtail which does not have any up and down travel in the rear because it has NO shocks in the first place. THESE bikes can be a little bit lower without crashing.
But LOWERING a shock mounted motorcycle which was sold set up TOO LOW in the first place?
I don't know. Darwinian natural selection will eventually purge us of all the bad designs out there?
Probably not. Last weekend I was on my sportbike and a hairy Harley guy RACED me through the curves using 12" ape-hangers and no shield. And he was doing over 100 through the corners.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.
So I give UP. Do what you want to do. I realize some of you get a thrill from DELIBERATELY setting up dangerous bikes in the first place. It is your THING.
I just hope my buddies will stop dying at such an alarming rate from bad setups. I am still not over the last one which was caused by scraping his bike and flipping it head on into a bridge abutment.
Carry on.
You and s/he/it should share a safe room. Please make sure to turn off any microphones so we won't have to listen to you two also. Thanks for playing.
Road Warrior
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From: Phoenix
Probably not. Last weekend I was on my sportbike and a hairy Harley guy RACED me through the curves using 12" ape-hangers and no shield. And he was doing over 100 through the corners.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.
I would have NEVER ridden that fast on what I consider a terrible set up but HE did not have a care in the world.