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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:29 PM
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I have been trying to find something in the cvc law book that states how high turn signals can be mounted. Only thing I have found is how low to the ground. 15" from the ground and the rear turn signals can't be less than 9" apart.
I have a dyna and I have 10" t bars but want to raise it to 14" t bars and want to add the mirrors with the turn signals built in.
Does anyone know the VC for this one?
 
Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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I think your answer is in there somewhere...

EDIT... Sorry, I think you already found this.

Turn Signals (24951, 24952, 24953 VC). A turn signal system,
if installed, shall include four turn signal lamps, two single-faced
or two double-faced front lamps, and two single-faced rear
lamps. The two lamps at each end shall be mounted at least nine
inches apart and as far apart as practicable, with the front lamps
at least four inches from the nearest luminous edge of the low
beam headlamp. Motorcycles manufactured and first registered
on or after January 1, 1973, except motor-driven cycles if speed
attainable in one mile is 30 mph or less, are required to be
equipped with turn signal systems with the front turn signal
lamps spaced at least 16 inches apart and the rear turn signal
lamps spaced at least 9 inches apart. The lamp shall be so
connected that the front and rear lamps on the side toward which
a turn is signaled shall flash simultaneously. The system shall
also include a flasher and a visual indicator to the driver that the
turn signal lamps are on. The rear sections of double-faced front
lamps may serve as the required indicators. The lamps shall
project white or amber light to the front and red or amber light to
the rear. The lamps shall be plainly visible from 300 feet to front
3 CHP 888 and rear. On vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, the
turn signal lamps shall be mounted no less than 15 inches above
the roadway and the front lamps must be amber. Turn signals are
not required on motorized bicycles.
 
Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:42 PM
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As crazy as it sounds you might want to try calling the DMV.
 

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AZRider62
I think your answer is in there somewhere...

EDIT... Sorry, I think you already found this.

Turn Signals (24951, 24952, 24953 VC). A turn signal system,
if installed, shall include four turn signal lamps, two single-faced
or two double-faced front lamps, and two single-faced rear
lamps. The two lamps at each end shall be mounted at least nine
inches apart and as far apart as practicable, with the front lamps
at least four inches from the nearest luminous edge of the low
beam headlamp. Motorcycles manufactured and first registered
on or after January 1, 1973, except motor-driven cycles if speed
attainable in one mile is 30 mph or less, are required to be
equipped with turn signal systems with the front turn signal
lamps spaced at least 16 inches apart and the rear turn signal
lamps spaced at least 9 inches apart. The lamp shall be so
connected that the front and rear lamps on the side toward which
a turn is signaled shall flash simultaneously. The system shall
also include a flasher and a visual indicator to the driver that the
turn signal lamps are on. The rear sections of double-faced front
lamps may serve as the required indicators. The lamps shall
project white or amber light to the front and red or amber light to
the rear. The lamps shall be plainly visible from 300 feet to front
3 CHP 888 and rear. On vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, the
turn signal lamps shall be mounted no less than 15 inches above
the roadway and the front lamps must be amber. Turn signals are
not required on motorized bicycles.
That is what I found. If this is the only law there is about height of turn signals then I shouldn't be pulled over for it.
 
Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AZRider62
As crazy as it sounds you might want to try calling the DMV. When I lived in Texas I had a similar question about my Jeep and called the DMV. I had to leave a message but within 15 minutes a very helpful officer called back and patiently explained the law to me. I was stunned.

I will take that advice. I will be stunned if I get a response.
 
Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AZRider62
As crazy as it sounds you might want to try calling the DMV. When I lived in Texas I had a similar question about my Jeep and called the DMV. I had to leave a message but within 15 minutes a very helpful officer called back and patiently explained the law to me. I was stunned.
You've never tried to call the California DMV have you?

Actually the CHP would be the agency to call. Most offices have an on duty officer there to answer such inquiries. But if the answer is not in the CA VC then just look up DOT because that will always apply in the absence of a specific state Law or Regulation.
 
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You've never tried to call the California DMV have you?
I have not... and I hope to keep it that way.
 
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You've never tried to call the California DMV have you?

Actually the CHP would be the agency to call. Most offices have an on duty officer there to answer such inquiries. But if the answer is not in the CA VC then just look up DOT because that will always apply in the absence of a specific state Law or Regulation.
Email sent to CHP. Lets see if I get a reply.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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Email sent to CHP. Lets see if I get a reply.
Below is the email I received. Looks like I am in the clear!

This is in response to your question about the requirements for mounting turn signals to a motorcycle. There is no specific height requirement related to mounting turn signals to the front of a motorcycle. The two vehicle code sections I have provided below relate to turn signal requirements.



Thank You

Officer Robert MacLean

CHP Coastal Division



Turn Signal Lamps

24953. (a) Any turn signal system used to give a signal of intention to turn right or left shall project a flashing white or amber light visible to the front and a flashing red or amber light visible to the rear.

(b) Side-mounted turn signal lamps projecting a flashing amber light to either side may be used to supplement the front and rear turn signals. Side-mounted turn signal lamps mounted to the rear of the center of the vehicle may project a flashing red light no part of which shall be visible from the front.

(c) In addition to any required turn signal lamps, any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental rear turn signal lamps mounted to the rear of the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in its rearmost position.

(d) In addition to any required or authorized turn signal lamps, any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental rear turn signal lamps that are mounted on, or are an integral portion of, the outside rearview mirrors, so long as the lamps flash simultaneously with the rear turn signal lamps, the light emitted from the lamps is projected only to the rear of the vehicle and is not visible to the driver under normal operating conditions, except for a visual indicator designed to allow monitoring of lamp operation, and the lamps do not project a glaring light.


Visibility Requirements of Signals

24952. A lamp-type turn signal shall be plainly visible and understandable in normal sunlight and at nighttime from a distance of at least 300 feet to the front and rear of the vehicle, except that turn signal lamps on vehicles of a size required to be equipped with clearance lamps shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet during such times.
 
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Originally Posted by Meezie408
Below is the email I received. Looks like I am in the clear!

This is in response to your question about the requirements for mounting turn signals to a motorcycle. There is no specific height requirement related to mounting turn signals to the front of a motorcycle. The two vehicle code sections I have provided below relate to turn signal requirements.



Thank You

Officer Robert MacLean

CHP Coastal Division



Turn Signal Lamps

24953.
(d) In addition to any required or authorized turn signal lamps, any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental rear turn signal lamps that are mounted on, or are an integral portion of, the outside rearview mirrors, so long as the lamps flash simultaneously with the rear turn signal lamps, the light emitted from the lamps is projected only to the rear of the vehicle....
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Just an FYI
Many with integrated t/s mirrors have found those do not flash in synch with existed t/s. Cant see why or how this would be an issue even though written as so.
 



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