HDForums tackles Tiered Licensing.
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2013
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From: Cali
back ontopic. i'll have to agree that CC's is a stupid way of dealing with this. but when has government been known for understanding anything enough to properly legislate it.
its not hard to push a gsxr 600 to well over 125hp. where as an 800 cc suzuki m50 barely makes 50hp after stage1.
Last edited by slozomby; Aug 2, 2014 at 12:15 AM.
2nd Gear
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 6
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From: London
Well, here in Europe we have that kind of licensing. It is not directly based on CC but on KWatt (basically HP... which is closely related to the CC btw).
The system works.
H-D sells Sportster with some device the lower the HP. and than removes the limitation for free when the rider comes to the right age.
The system works.
H-D sells Sportster with some device the lower the HP. and than removes the limitation for free when the rider comes to the right age.
Cruiser
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 170
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From: Alhambra, CA
Gotta agree more "protection" , bureaucracy and fees is a drag. What I'd like to see instead is MSF course taken to a new level. Keep it optional, but upgrade it to a standard (existing) vs. advanced (more difficult, more costly and state/fed reviewed course - possibly with weight and power:weight qualifications)
With a recent advanced course cert under your belt, it "buys" you some clout in traffic court/DMV. Like maybe lets you knock a point off your speeding ticket once in a while. Like "traffic school" but done as a preventative rather than punitive measure
Give us a carrot instead of a stick and reward good riders!
With a recent advanced course cert under your belt, it "buys" you some clout in traffic court/DMV. Like maybe lets you knock a point off your speeding ticket once in a while. Like "traffic school" but done as a preventative rather than punitive measure
Give us a carrot instead of a stick and reward good riders!
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Gotta agree more "protection" , bureaucracy and fees is a drag. What I'd like to see instead is MSF course taken to a new level. Keep it optional, but upgrade it to a standard (existing) vs. advanced (more difficult, more costly and state/fed reviewed course - possibly with weight and power:weight qualifications)
With a recent advanced course cert under your belt, it "buys" you some clout in traffic court/DMV. Like maybe lets you knock a point off your speeding ticket once in a while. Like "traffic school" but done as a preventative rather than punitive measure
Give us a carrot instead of a stick and reward good riders!
With a recent advanced course cert under your belt, it "buys" you some clout in traffic court/DMV. Like maybe lets you knock a point off your speeding ticket once in a while. Like "traffic school" but done as a preventative rather than punitive measure
Give us a carrot instead of a stick and reward good riders!
Cruiser
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 170
Likes: 1
From: Alhambra, CA
I got the idea from how some (but not many) insurance companies here in CA do that. Our courts/DMV don't let you pull off the points. Just feels like a big money grab from them for the past 10 years.
Stage II
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 2
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From: Florence SC
Put simply, many people borrow a small bike to take the skills test because they can't pass on their bike. If you can't pass the test on your own bike should you really be riding that bike on the road? If you have to use a Honda Rebel to pass the state test then you should be riding a Rebel until your skills get to the point where you can handle a larger bike.
Road Warrior
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,280
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From: SC
Remember when, if you tested in a car/truck with a stick shift, that's what you had to drive. And also the other way around. I don't believe that stupid law is still around.
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Tourer
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 434
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From: louisiana
Why do people on a Harley Davidson forum preach so much about more government in our lives. You must wear this, you have to wear that. You cant ride a big bike, you better not spit while riding. the law says you cant ride with no hands, you must wear boots. We need a law for this and that. Yic yic yic yac yac, yac
What happened to we ride for the freedom of riding? What rules? We just ride. Do we really need somebody to tell us something is dangerous? We know that when we bought it. Most of us are smart enough to know if we buy a motor home with cruise control we cant get up and go fix a sandwich.
freedom to have wind in our face, bugs in our teeth
What happened to we ride for the freedom of riding? What rules? We just ride. Do we really need somebody to tell us something is dangerous? We know that when we bought it. Most of us are smart enough to know if we buy a motor home with cruise control we cant get up and go fix a sandwich.
freedom to have wind in our face, bugs in our teeth
Last edited by kirbyblue; Aug 7, 2014 at 03:23 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 519
Likes: 83
From: NC
Put simply, many people borrow a small bike to take the skills test because they can't pass on their bike. If you can't pass the test on your own bike should you really be riding that bike on the road? If you have to use a Honda Rebel to pass the state test then you should be riding a Rebel until your skills get to the point where you can handle a larger bike.