Stockpipessuck.com REALLY SUCK
I sent my new mufflers to them back on May 7th, 2014,have UPS confirmation of delivery, they were taken off at dealer before delivery of bike . Website says should get check in 30 days, as of today August 19th 2014 I still haven't been paid or gotten the email saying not usable asking for 25.00 to ship back. I sent them emails about this and haven't heard a word from them
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Maybe they think the EPA is going to drop the hammer on us with some sort of blanket law saying nothing but stock pipes. But even the most draconian laws, like the one California passed back in 2010 only says all motorcycles built after 2013 must have, not stock pipes per se, but EPA stamped pipes. And that three year time frame before enacting the law gave everyone the chance to get ready. Especially the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers.
Do you think someone like Vance and Hines would willingly give up the entire California market? And then also lose whatever States follow suit? No way. They are using the three years to develop aftermarket pipes that will carry the EPA stamp. And they will be better pipes than what the MoCo is using so people are still going to switch them out.
So the idea, "Someday soon everyone is going to need stock pipes, and we're going to make a fortune selling these," isn't going to happen. There will also be tons of "fake" EPA stamped pipes and you can't pass a law to make cops smarter than they are now, lol.
So that can't be it.
I think they are shipping them overseas by the container load and selling them for pennies on the dollar to individual bike builders and shops in Asia and elsewhere. It's a lot cheaper (and easier) to gut a stock set of pipes in your hand than order aftermarket ones from 5000 miles away.
And then how many people actually get the $75 they offer?
The, "Send us $25 for return of not like new pipes," is the rub here. Who's going to bother? And if you can't find a blem on a brand new set of Harley exhaust pipes you ain't looking hard enough.
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Maybe they think the EPA is going to drop the hammer on us with some sort of blanket law saying nothing but stock pipes. But even the most draconian laws, like the one California passed back in 2010 only says all motorcycles built after 2013 must have, not stock pipes per se, but EPA stamped pipes. And that three year time frame before enacting the law gave everyone the chance to get ready. Especially the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers.
Do you think someone like Vance and Hines would willingly give up the entire California market? And then also lose whatever States follow suit? No way. They are using the three years to develop aftermarket pipes that will carry the EPA stamp. And they will be better pipes than what the MoCo is using so people are still going to switch them out.
So the idea, "Someday soon everyone is going to need stock pipes, and we're going to make a fortune selling these," isn't going to happen. There will also be tons of "fake" EPA stamped pipes and you can't pass a law to make cops smarter than they are now, lol.
So that can't be it.
I think they are shipping them overseas by the container load and selling them for pennies on the dollar to individual bike builders and shops in Asia and elsewhere. It's a lot cheaper (and easier) to gut a stock set of pipes in your hand than order aftermarket ones from 5000 miles away.
And then how many people actually get the $75 they offer?
The, "Send us $25 for return of not like new pipes," is the rub here. Who's going to bother? And if you can't find a blem on a brand new set of Harley exhaust pipes you ain't looking hard enough.

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Maybe they think the EPA is going to drop the hammer on us with some sort of blanket law saying nothing but stock pipes. But even the most draconian laws, like the one California passed back in 2010 only says all motorcycles built after 2013 must have, not stock pipes per se, but EPA stamped pipes. And that three year time frame before enacting the law gave everyone the chance to get ready. Especially the aftermarket exhaust manufacturers.
Do you think someone like Vance and Hines would willingly give up the entire California market? And then also lose whatever States follow suit? No way. They are using the three years to develop aftermarket pipes that will carry the EPA stamp. And they will be better pipes than what the MoCo is using so people are still going to switch them out.
So the idea, "Someday soon everyone is going to need stock pipes, and we're going to make a fortune selling these," isn't going to happen. There will also be tons of "fake" EPA stamped pipes and you can't pass a law to make cops smarter than they are now, lol.
So that can't be it.
I think they are shipping them overseas by the container load and selling them for pennies on the dollar to individual bike builders and shops in Asia and elsewhere. It's a lot cheaper (and easier) to gut a stock set of pipes in your hand than order aftermarket ones from 5000 miles away.
And then how many people actually get the $75 they offer?
The, "Send us $25 for return of not like new pipes," is the rub here. Who's going to bother? And if you can't find a blem on a brand new set of Harley exhaust pipes you ain't looking hard enough.








