Oil Filter Removal
Road Master
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If you look down further I found that the filter fits a number of bikes but not HD.. If you click on the link, it will display the filter on Ebay and if you scroll down it will show what the filter fits.. Maybe you ought to take a chill pill or do some real research yourself.. Stop relying one what your buddies are saying or your memory..
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
If you look down further I found that the filter fits a number of bikes but not HD.. If you click on the link, it will display the filter on Ebay and if you scroll down it will show what the filter fits.. Maybe you ought to take a chill pill or do some real research yourself.. Stop relying one what your buddies are saying or your memory..
Have you ever gone through pre-race tech inspection? Probably not. Did you ever sit while the entire day/weekend was delayed because they were trying to clean up oil spewed all over a track? Nope again. Guess what? I have. I did. I was part of those orgs.
This issue did not last for just a couple weeks. And K&N initially refused to even acknowledge there might be an issue. My point is, and always has been, that when a manufacturer first outsources their production to a low cost cheap contract manufacturer, then their product fails in a demonstrated and repeated fashion, then they refuse to acknowledge it, and ONLY begin to address it AFTER their product is banned from sanctioning organizers, well.....
It should be clear to anyone that such a manufacturer does not have a quality focus, and there is no reason to trust them when there are other manufacturers with zero instances of such failures. It should also be clear that people ought not to make false statements that could impact what somebody else does. Like the people claiming that HiFlo makes or made K&N filters. They did not. They do not. They are not the same product.
That seems pretty "chill" to me. Cold, hard logic. Front and Center.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
The 204 was the only one K&N admitted culpability on - and (not so) interestingly, their documentation about the recall and fix was since removed from their site. However there were known failures of the 303 and other filters in the same exact fashion (either o-ring, or weld bursting) as well. While (and again, I've mentioned this many times already) MotoAmerica repealed the ban, not everyone did, and certainly not at the same time.
More importantly, when you walk through the paddocks at the track, the one thing you don't see? K&N Oil Filters.
Maybe it's just people who have more to lose are more careful than guys riding cruisers. Who knows. But IMHO there is no reason to take a chance when K&N provides exactly zero advantages.
Road Master
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From: Ohio
ff you think that was the only K&N filter that was banned, think again. You're only looking at MotoAmerica.
The 204 was the only one K&N admitted culpability on - and (not so) interestingly, their documentation about the recall and fix was since removed from their site. However there were known failures of the 303 and other filters in the same exact fashion (either o-ring, or weld bursting) as well. While (and again, I've mentioned this many times already) MotoAmerica repealed the ban, not everyone did, and certainly not at the same time.
More importantly, when you walk through the paddocks at the track, the one thing you don't see? K&N Oil Filters.
Maybe it's just people who have more to lose are more careful than guys riding cruisers. Who knows. But IMHO there is no reason to take a chance when K&N provides exactly zero advantages.
The 204 was the only one K&N admitted culpability on - and (not so) interestingly, their documentation about the recall and fix was since removed from their site. However there were known failures of the 303 and other filters in the same exact fashion (either o-ring, or weld bursting) as well. While (and again, I've mentioned this many times already) MotoAmerica repealed the ban, not everyone did, and certainly not at the same time.
More importantly, when you walk through the paddocks at the track, the one thing you don't see? K&N Oil Filters.
Maybe it's just people who have more to lose are more careful than guys riding cruisers. Who knows. But IMHO there is no reason to take a chance when K&N provides exactly zero advantages.
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From: poway
Um, unfortunately I experienced all of this. Personally. And here's the thing (disregarding your jackass chill pill comment). Do you think the manufacturing techniques and materials used for some of the K&N filters are totally different than those with other K&N oil filters? Seriously? Display the filter on EBay? Really?
Have you ever gone through pre-race tech inspection? Probably not. Did you ever sit while the entire day/weekend was delayed because they were trying to clean up oil spewed all over a track? Nope again. Guess what? I have. I did. I was part of those orgs.
This issue did not last for just a couple weeks. And K&N initially refused to even acknowledge there might be an issue. My point is, and always has been, that when a manufacturer first outsources their production to a low cost cheap contract manufacturer, then their product fails in a demonstrated and repeated fashion, then they refuse to acknowledge it, and ONLY begin to address it AFTER their product is banned from sanctioning organizers, well.....
It should be clear to anyone that such a manufacturer does not have a quality focus, and there is no reason to trust them when there are other manufacturers with zero instances of such failures. It should also be clear that people ought not to make false statements that could impact what somebody else does. Like the people claiming that HiFlo makes or made K&N filters. They did not. They do not. They are not the same product.
That seems pretty "chill" to me. Cold, hard logic. Front and Center.
Have you ever gone through pre-race tech inspection? Probably not. Did you ever sit while the entire day/weekend was delayed because they were trying to clean up oil spewed all over a track? Nope again. Guess what? I have. I did. I was part of those orgs.
This issue did not last for just a couple weeks. And K&N initially refused to even acknowledge there might be an issue. My point is, and always has been, that when a manufacturer first outsources their production to a low cost cheap contract manufacturer, then their product fails in a demonstrated and repeated fashion, then they refuse to acknowledge it, and ONLY begin to address it AFTER their product is banned from sanctioning organizers, well.....
It should be clear to anyone that such a manufacturer does not have a quality focus, and there is no reason to trust them when there are other manufacturers with zero instances of such failures. It should also be clear that people ought not to make false statements that could impact what somebody else does. Like the people claiming that HiFlo makes or made K&N filters. They did not. They do not. They are not the same product.
That seems pretty "chill" to me. Cold, hard logic. Front and Center.
You are SO wrong!!!!!
This stuff don't bother me in the least.. I just calling it as I see it..
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Well when I club road raced no one did tech inspection and the bike I rode didn't even have an oil filter. You were probably still in diapers or latest riding your schwin.. Racing off road later, Score did need wire tied spokes and safety wired drain plugs. Still no filter..
Still reads like you are upset or simply wanting to strut your stuff.. Nothing like giving incomplete information and talking down when someone disagrees..
This stuff don't bother me in the least.. I just calling it as I see it..
Still reads like you are upset or simply wanting to strut your stuff.. Nothing like giving incomplete information and talking down when someone disagrees..
This stuff don't bother me in the least.. I just calling it as I see it..
be careful about making ***(umptions). Ends up making you the ***.
Last edited by bherder; Aug 22, 2024 at 12:12 PM.
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Wow ! For such a useful and beneficial forum filled with so many knowledgeable fellow riders it does tend to degenerate at times !!
Amusing initially then it just becomes an episode of Desperate Housewives…..
Amusing initially then it just becomes an episode of Desperate Housewives…..
