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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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What do you guys think? Ball head Allen t-handles or just the standard without?
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:29 AM
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Ball Head??? You mean button head Cap screws? What are "standard" You mean Cap Screw? Depends on where. The clown here, (dealers son) what a Troll he is, says cap screws are better. Not, Torx Bit Caps are better.
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:33 AM
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:43 AM
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First time I've ever head a Button head called a Ball head. Is this what you're saying?
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:47 AM
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Ball end Allens are nice if you can't get in to the bolt straight on but I have experienced a lot of slippage and stripping out of both the wrench and the head with ball and prefer the standard whenever possible.
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:55 AM
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Ball head for convenience but ultimately it's easier to damage the allen bolt with them. Standard when higher torques are required.
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlockHead96
Ball Head??? You mean button head Cap screws? What are "standard" You mean Cap Screw? Depends on where. The clown here, (dealers son) what a Troll he is, says cap screws are better. Not, Torx Bit Caps are better.
He's asking about the wrench itself. Not the fastener.
 
Old Aug 8, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ThunderBueller
He's asking about the wrench itself. Not the fastener.

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Because of deformation of cap screw and button head caps, with allen wrenchs when pressure is applied, is the main reason most manufactures go with a Torx head. Less slippage and stripping/deforming of the head when torquing of over tightening.
 
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ball head are ok if they are a really good expensive set, snapon or equilivant ..cheaper(crapsman) will twist off or slip easy.. i like torx but you still need high quality bits so they dont twist or break
 
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I have both - if large or been seated for a while, you need full purchase or they strip; but I love the convenience of the bald head, although occasionally the reflection in the chrome is just too much. Cheers, Kevin.
 



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