How do you slow down?
Again, I guess you people really didn't get the meaning of the whole video. I stated how I NORMALLY slow down, NOT EMERGENCY STOP! If you actually paid attention to the video, when I need to emergency stop I do use the front brakes, but I guess your attention span turned off before that part of the video. If you want to bring on a skills test, let it be high speed, low speed, EMERGENCY stopping, anything. I will put my skills to the test! Not just hiding behind pot leaves and throwing people out of vehicles. Wow, I just have to say Maybe the sport bike people are nicer than Harley riders, at least in this forum. I guess there is an ignorant ignore button for haters on this forum also.
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odds are when people crash motorcycles they will panic and lock up their back break and end up laying the bike down.
let me know what happens if you crash, mr i know how to break because i own a harley.
you're right, i should pratice more on doing panic stops.
stoney
let me know what happens if you crash, mr i know how to break because i own a harley.
you're right, i should pratice more on doing panic stops.
stoney
As I posted, this thread is outing the owners. I'm not an HD owner, I'm a motorcyclist that happens to like HD's but I've spent as much seat time on sport and sport touring bikes as I have HD's.
Practice is the only way to learn threshold/maximum braking; the time you actually need to use maximum braking shouldn't be the first time you've tried to do it. That term, 'had to lay 'er down' is code for 'I don't know how to actually use my brakes'.
Practice threshold braking, take some advanced riding courses, do track days, study the works of Keith Code, Lee Parks, Ken Condon, and Nick Ienatsch. Motorcycling is a learned skill; you'll be surprised how much fun it is when you actually know what you're doing...
You are assuming I do not know how to ride, am I correct? I did my time on the track both motorcross and road race track. I am been riding for 30+ years, I have been trained and practice almost daily, the people on this board have no clue who I am or what I have done, but are quick to throw stones. Again my riding skills speak for themselves, but with the attitudes of a few on this thread, I wouldn't want to ride side by side with them, they may fall over and wreck me. Let alone have my back if needed, isn't that what it is all about? The brotherhood of the ride, not "I know something you don't know, therefor I am going to post it and make you feel like a idiot." I did that to when I was in middle school. I grew up and if someone didn't know I tried to teach them and help them out.
So your on a HD forum talking about Harley with a tag picture of a Harley, why would anyone not assume you rode a Harley? Just saying....
So your on a HD forum talking about Harley with a tag picture of a Harley, why would anyone not assume you rode a Harley? Just saying....
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Again, I guess you people really didn't get the meaning of the whole video. I stated how I NORMALLY slow down, NOT EMERGENCY STOP! If you actually paid attention to the video, when I need to emergency stop I do use the front brakes, but I guess your attention span turned off before that part of the video. If you want to bring on a skills test, let it be high speed, low speed, EMERGENCY stopping, anything. I will put my skills to the test! Not just hiding behind pot leaves and throwing people out of vehicles. Wow, I just have to say Maybe the sport bike people are nicer than Harley riders, at least in this forum. I guess there is an ignorant ignore button for haters on this forum also.
The only thing I have to say about this is, If you don't habitually use your front and rear brakes during normal riding conditions, when you do need to use the front brake in an emergency it will not be pretty in most cases.
It's about developing skills that kick in automatically in an emergency, without having to even think about it for an instant.
Maybe sport bike people are nicer...Who really cares?
As I stated before....You've already got it all figured out, carry on.
It's absolutely hilarious that every time someone posts something like this and people come on and mention that they might want to re-think their riding technique, that they instantly start whining about "haters" and whining about how they'll put their riding skills up against anyone.....Because they are a "pro".
Oh, and the whole "Harley Brotherhood" thing is hype....Just because you went and bought a particular brand of motorcycle, doesn't make you anyone's "brother", That is earned!
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One thing I've always enjoyed about riding is that I control it with both hands and both feet instead of more simplified driving. So I switch around with hand (front) and rear (foot) braking to keep it sport and keep in practice, all depending on the situation. However, I would never consider ******* the bike with the engine. Much more expensive than brakes to my mind. I too have had courses, including the crazy one in the military where they had you use their bike to lay it down.
In my experience I've used acceleration more often than brakes in tight situations. I also don't believe there is only one "right" way of doing things. Though I wouldn't want to buy the bike that has used the engine more than the brakes for braking, I have a similar problem with using the kill switch instead of the ignition. 2 cents.
In my experience I've used acceleration more often than brakes in tight situations. I also don't believe there is only one "right" way of doing things. Though I wouldn't want to buy the bike that has used the engine more than the brakes for braking, I have a similar problem with using the kill switch instead of the ignition. 2 cents.
It's absolutely hilarious that every time someone posts something like this and people come on and mention that they might want to re-think their riding technique, that they instantly start whining about "haters" and whining about how they'll put their riding skills up against anyone.....Because they are a "pro".
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Apparantly your procedure isn't well liked...
Leads me to believe somethings wrong with your thinking process...
Let me ask you this......What ya gonna do when you stomp that rear brake and it's worn down to metal because you've worn it out?
My guess is "I had to lay 'er down!".
Braking is a combination of front and rear.
You don't brake with just the rears in your car, do you?
NO...they work togther in combination.
On a motorcycle you must learn how to COMBINE the front and rear brakes for minimum stopping distance IN ALL SITUATIONS.
If you don't, you'll eventually pay the price of your arrogance.
Until then......stay in the parking lots and parades.
Leads me to believe somethings wrong with your thinking process...
Let me ask you this......What ya gonna do when you stomp that rear brake and it's worn down to metal because you've worn it out?
My guess is "I had to lay 'er down!".
Braking is a combination of front and rear.
You don't brake with just the rears in your car, do you?
NO...they work togther in combination.
On a motorcycle you must learn how to COMBINE the front and rear brakes for minimum stopping distance IN ALL SITUATIONS.
If you don't, you'll eventually pay the price of your arrogance.
Until then......stay in the parking lots and parades.
Last edited by silvrbill; Aug 8, 2016 at 01:21 PM.
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How do I slow down? I use the brakes; brake pads are cheap, engines and transmissions are very expensive; I rev-match downshift matching engine RPM to road speed and don't use any sort of engine braking; engine braking is slowing down the wrong end of the motorcycle anyway. I suppose if you trade off every couple of years, what does it matter; do what you're doing...
I come from a road racing background, which I realize is odd in the HD world, but the MotoGP guys don't rev-match/downshift/use and tune engine braking to precise amounts because it sounds cool on TV...they do it because it is the best way to ride a motorcycle safely, quickly, with the most control.