FP3 vs dyno run
FP3 vs dyno run
Hello guys,
wondering about changing of my stock pipes on FXDLS to Vance Hines Slip Ons and will need tune my bike. My dealer tells me only dyno run and midification of stock ECM is the way. I believe not and told him what about Vance Hines FP3 and autotune option. He says no, it does not work.
Do you guys have any experience with comparison FP3 tuned map and results on the dyno? Doe it match?
Thanks,
Ondřej.
wondering about changing of my stock pipes on FXDLS to Vance Hines Slip Ons and will need tune my bike. My dealer tells me only dyno run and midification of stock ECM is the way. I believe not and told him what about Vance Hines FP3 and autotune option. He says no, it does not work.
Do you guys have any experience with comparison FP3 tuned map and results on the dyno? Doe it match?
Thanks,
Ondřej.
I believe so and do not expect I will need autotune. But when I will buy it, just need to confirm it is comparable with dyno run. You know what I mean? If anybody did autotune and then compared to the dyno run. If A/F values (curves) are comparable, or big gaps in here...
Unfortunatelly believe dealer need to earn the money, since dynu run costs 350 USD.
Unfortunatelly believe dealer need to earn the money, since dynu run costs 350 USD.
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Good luck!
Last edited by 2015UltraLimited; Feb 1, 2018 at 08:25 AM.
Not sure I explained it in the right way..
Dealer says they had one customer in the past with FP3 unsatisfied and only dyno work can do it properly. What I´m wondering is if anybody tried to compare dyno tuned map with FP3 autotune map.
Anyway they says installation will stop the warranty.
I do think running bike with on board tuner should be better than dyno, since on the dyno you cannot obtain all riding modes.
Dealer says they had one customer in the past with FP3 unsatisfied and only dyno work can do it properly. What I´m wondering is if anybody tried to compare dyno tuned map with FP3 autotune map.
Anyway they says installation will stop the warranty.
I do think running bike with on board tuner should be better than dyno, since on the dyno you cannot obtain all riding modes.
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There's nothing better than a good dyno tune...key word is good...which you probably won't get from the dealer. Like it has already been said the fp3 will be good enough for a stage one. Is there a difference between the fp3 and good dyno tune? Yes absolutely. But only you can decide if you want to risk your warranty or not.
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It collects more hits per cell, gets more reliable data, and can hit more cells of the table than on the street will ever get. And it takes less time (I'm guessing). And it is one hell of a lot safer than tanking up and down the street as well.
Do you need a dyno tune is another question, but street vs dyno for more accurate/fuller results is probably a no brainer.
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Has anyone actually tuned a bike with the FP3 then put it on a dyno to see how close or far out they actually are? Might prove a point to the sceptics and experts either way. I realise dyno guys only like to tune the ones they know but it would be a good exercise if you had access to a free dyno run.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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I found the shop to do my tune on this forum from this thread.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...ned-today.html
I had an FP3 at the time wanted to do the same thing as Robbyville. When I called Chad at Wide Open Cycles, he said that he did this for Robyville as he wanted tune a bike with an FP3 as he had never tried. If I recall the conversation correctly from 2 years ago on what his experience was, it would have been cost prohibitive for Chad to do the same thing for me given the extra hours it takes to manually make the adjustments to each table via a smart phone or tabet to interface with the FP3 after he got the readings from the computer that was connected to his dyno. It was cost prohibitive in the respect for the extra time it required with the FP3. Given his dyno setup, he could provide a better tune at a lower price point with one of the other name brand devices. After hearing that, I still wanted to see what my bike was doing as the FP3 was reporting as high as ~114 torque on my iPhone gauge interface, which I knew was not correct. Since I was a HDF forum member, he gave me a break on his standard rate to come down to his shop if I wanted to make a couple of test pulls. When I saw my actual numbers of 93.5 torque (not 114) and I knew had seen stock dyno charts from FuelMoto's website have my bike at 91.... needless to say I was not impressed. That's when I made the decision to trash the FP3 and get the bike done with the Power Vision. My dyno sheet is on Post #5 link. That is how I started down this path... all because of Robbyville :-).
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...ned-today.html
I had an FP3 at the time wanted to do the same thing as Robbyville. When I called Chad at Wide Open Cycles, he said that he did this for Robyville as he wanted tune a bike with an FP3 as he had never tried. If I recall the conversation correctly from 2 years ago on what his experience was, it would have been cost prohibitive for Chad to do the same thing for me given the extra hours it takes to manually make the adjustments to each table via a smart phone or tabet to interface with the FP3 after he got the readings from the computer that was connected to his dyno. It was cost prohibitive in the respect for the extra time it required with the FP3. Given his dyno setup, he could provide a better tune at a lower price point with one of the other name brand devices. After hearing that, I still wanted to see what my bike was doing as the FP3 was reporting as high as ~114 torque on my iPhone gauge interface, which I knew was not correct. Since I was a HDF forum member, he gave me a break on his standard rate to come down to his shop if I wanted to make a couple of test pulls. When I saw my actual numbers of 93.5 torque (not 114) and I knew had seen stock dyno charts from FuelMoto's website have my bike at 91.... needless to say I was not impressed. That's when I made the decision to trash the FP3 and get the bike done with the Power Vision. My dyno sheet is on Post #5 link. That is how I started down this path... all because of Robbyville :-).
Last edited by 2015UltraLimited; Feb 3, 2018 at 08:05 AM.