Power Vision Headache
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Power Vision Headache
The bike when I bought it - 2009 Ultra Classic, Screamin Eagle fatshotz, original air cleaner, original HD map in ECM.
I installed a Power Vision last year and did an auto tune with a stage 1 map... no problems (ran slightly rich - slight soot on end of exhaust)
Rode the bike like this for 8000 miles
Over this past winter I have installed an S&S Stealth Air Cleaner.
I have run Auto tune again (1/2 hour ride) and very few cells turn Red
Installed original HD map and very few cells turn Red
Checked O2 sensors with Power Vision:
Stone cold - 5.10 volts Front and back
After warm up: Front toggles between 1.8 and 1.2 Volts, Rear 1.2 and .07
After a 20 min. ride I noticed the O2 Sensors stopped toggling up and down.
The temperatures here have been between 45*F and 55*F
Bottom line...I can't get the cells to populate
Could it be too cold to use the Narrow Band O2 sensors to Auto tune?
Thanks,
Steve
I installed a Power Vision last year and did an auto tune with a stage 1 map... no problems (ran slightly rich - slight soot on end of exhaust)
Rode the bike like this for 8000 miles
Over this past winter I have installed an S&S Stealth Air Cleaner.
I have run Auto tune again (1/2 hour ride) and very few cells turn Red
Installed original HD map and very few cells turn Red
Checked O2 sensors with Power Vision:
Stone cold - 5.10 volts Front and back
After warm up: Front toggles between 1.8 and 1.2 Volts, Rear 1.2 and .07
After a 20 min. ride I noticed the O2 Sensors stopped toggling up and down.
The temperatures here have been between 45*F and 55*F
Bottom line...I can't get the cells to populate
Could it be too cold to use the Narrow Band O2 sensors to Auto tune?
Thanks,
Steve
Last edited by Sully59; 04-14-2018 at 06:21 PM. Reason: tried to move to Dyno Room but didn't see it there
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First check your Power Vision Auto Tune settings.
The big twin engine have different temperature settings, confirm your AutoTune settings are set correctly.
See page 24 of this document-
http://www.powercommander.com/downlo...utoTune.02.pdf
Page 12 lists the messages you will see in the AutoTune screen indicating why the PV is not "auto tuning"
A half hour might be too short to get the bike up to full temperature this time of year in Canada
You can see the Engine Temperature, ET, at the top of the AutoTune Screen.
The big twin engine have different temperature settings, confirm your AutoTune settings are set correctly.
See page 24 of this document-
http://www.powercommander.com/downlo...utoTune.02.pdf
Page 12 lists the messages you will see in the AutoTune screen indicating why the PV is not "auto tuning"
A half hour might be too short to get the bike up to full temperature this time of year in Canada
You can see the Engine Temperature, ET, at the top of the AutoTune Screen.
Last edited by shanneba; 04-15-2018 at 05:47 AM.
#3
Thanks Shanneba,
I'm fairly new to FI tuning and loving it, beats a carb anyday. I didn't even think to check those parameters. I just checked all those settings... they all looked correct but I set them all to default. I think (hope) the engine may have not been warm enough and that is the problem.
So it's raining today... hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to go for a ride. I set one of the Power Vision gauges to Engine Temp.
Is it normal to see NBF:0 and NBR:0 while off the throttle (ie coasting)
I'm fairly new to FI tuning and loving it, beats a carb anyday. I didn't even think to check those parameters. I just checked all those settings... they all looked correct but I set them all to default. I think (hope) the engine may have not been warm enough and that is the problem.
So it's raining today... hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to go for a ride. I set one of the Power Vision gauges to Engine Temp.
Is it normal to see NBF:0 and NBR:0 while off the throttle (ie coasting)
Last edited by Sully59; 04-15-2018 at 10:14 AM.
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Yes this is when in Auto tune mode. I definitely was in Basic with NB O2 sensors.
It flashes NBF:0 and NBR:0 while coasting and flashes them on off while cruising a a steady speed.
I didn't do a datalog session but I definitely will next ride. Can you think of anything else I could monitor while on a ride after doing an Auto tune run.
It flashes NBF:0 and NBR:0 while coasting and flashes them on off while cruising a a steady speed.
I didn't do a datalog session but I definitely will next ride. Can you think of anything else I could monitor while on a ride after doing an Auto tune run.
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