Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection Need advice on ignition issues? Questions about a tuner? Have questions about a EFI calibration or Fuel Injection? Tips on Engine Diagnostics, how to get codes, and what they mean. Find your answers here.

Sparkplug choice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 02:44 PM
  #1  
ShoreRider's Avatar
ShoreRider
Thread Starter
|
Road Master
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 925
Likes: 56
From: Memphis, TN via NoVA
Default Sparkplug choice

I was reading in the DIY forums regarding alternatives to the HD stock plugs. One of the things mentioned there is the potential for ION sensing to be affected if not using HD plugs. I'm somewhat ignorant in this area.

Basic plug construction is a constant throughout the industry, with the noted exception for the differences used in fabrication for heat ranges/ceramics and electrodes. It's not like there is a sensing chip in the HD plugs or anything simialr to that. That being understood, if the non HD plug heat range is matched, what is so special about stock HD plugs that by changing to another brand would affect ION sensing as mentioned by HDF Tech in the DIY forum?
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:56 PM
  #2  
fxrp's Avatar
fxrp
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

There's nothing special about the HD plugs. Last I heard theywere Champions and I wouldn't run a Champion plug in my lawnmower. Think of itlike the old HD statement that synthetic oil is "toooooo slippery;"completeBS.
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:39 PM
  #3  
CCPD's Avatar
CCPD
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

Your scoot will run on the other plugs, but the ignition system was designed with the champion plugs and stock wires. I may be wrong on this as I am not a mechanic, but the ion knock sensing system works on electrical signals recieved thru the plug wires from the plugs. Changingthe wires or plugs may change the signal slightly and may cause your knock to be incorrectly diagnosed by the equipment or not sensed at all.

You will get a multitude of different answers to this question. If you want to test another plug by all means give it a try. If your happy with the results stick with it.

Chris
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 04:58 PM
  #4  
fxrp's Avatar
fxrp
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

Well the best is yet to come.

This spring you'll be able to buy HD gasoline, its been specially blended for the unique demands of the Harley V-Twin engine. Caution: Use of other brands of gasoline MAY void your waranty. MSRP: $9.99/gallon.

And later this summerproprietary tire inflation blendswill beavailable;one blend is specific totouring and softail models,the otheris forsport bikes, dyna, sportster and V Rods. MSRP: $1.99/psi.
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:04 PM
  #5  
streetboob's Avatar
streetboob
Road Warrior
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 0
From: Poquoson, VA
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

ORIGINAL: fxrp

Well the best is yet to come.

This spring you'll be able to buy HD gasoline, its been specially blended for the unique demands of the Harley V-Twin engine. Caution: Use of other brands of gasoline MAY void your waranty. MSRP: $9.99/gallon.

And later this summerproprietary tire inflation blendswill beavailable;one blend is specific totouring and softail models,the otheris forsport bikes, dyna, sportster and V Rods. MSRP: $1.99/psi.
Well, it's about time!!
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:48 PM
  #6  
EZ2Rider's Avatar
EZ2Rider
Road Master
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
From: Alleghany Co., NC and SW Florida
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

IF the plugs resistance is different from the stock plug, you may get faulty ION sensor operation. That would also include using HD's own forked electrode, platinum plugs.

That said, NGKs are the choice of many tuners.

EZ
 
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 07:54 PM
  #7  
fastbagger's Avatar
fastbagger
Road Captain
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 603
Likes: 14
From: AZ
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

I have used ngk's on all my hd's, never a problem.
 
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 09:58 AM
  #8  
encorebilly's Avatar
encorebilly
Advanced
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

ORIGINAL: CCPD

Your scoot will run on the other plugs, but the ignition system was designed with the champion plugs and stock wires. I may be wrong on this as I am not a mechanic, but the ion knock sensing system works on electrical signals recieved thru the plug wires from the plugs. Changingthe wires or plugs may change the signal slightly and may cause your knock to be incorrectly diagnosed by the equipment or not sensed at all.

You will get a multitude of different answers to this question. If you want to test another plug by all means give it a try. If your happy with the results stick with it.

Chris
Hope they don't quit making champion plugs or we will have to sell our bikes!
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 12:06 PM
  #9  
KBFXDLI's Avatar
KBFXDLI
Big Kahuna HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,881
Likes: 34
From: USA
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

I tried some autolites......threw codes every time I rode it. So there is some truth to the ion sensing issue. BTW, I tried the Harley Davidson air in my tires.......works great!!
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 07:05 AM
  #10  
encorebilly's Avatar
encorebilly
Advanced
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From:
Default RE: Sparkplug choice

ORIGINAL: KBFXDLI

I tried some autolites......threw codes every time I rode it. So there is some truth to the ion sensing issue. BTW, I tried the Harley Davidson air in my tires.......works great!!
Must depend on the bike because I've used the autolite and ngk and can't tell much difference and no codes with either.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1450rdking
General Harley Davidson Chat
23
Sep 11, 2014 11:03 PM
jackinthebox
Exhaust System Topics
4
Jul 11, 2012 03:26 PM
EasternSP
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
5
Jun 15, 2008 07:43 PM
rjmac53
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
5
Mar 22, 2008 02:14 PM
flynavy
Exhaust System Topics
3
Oct 26, 2007 06:17 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:04 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE