Powercommander Autotune
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From: Cameron, NC
Powercommander Autotune
I tried the search feature and I suck so I may be asking a questionthat has already been asked.
Anyway, I have the PC V on my bike with the Stage I setup. I have not Dyno tuned my bike, just running a canned map. It is working good, but I would like a bit more perfection. Would it be better for me to get the bike dyno tuned for a couple hundred bucks, or go with the Auto-tune from Dynojet to add on to the Power Commander for a couple hunderd bucks? The way I see it, a dyno tune is a one time thing and I have to do it again if I change anything, and the Auto tune would be "reusable". And, they are both about the same price anyway.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I never claimed to be a smart man. I have just heard that getting the bike dyno tuned can be a shot in the dark as far as the tuner and setup goes and I may not get a good tune anyway.
Any input would be appreciated.
Anyway, I have the PC V on my bike with the Stage I setup. I have not Dyno tuned my bike, just running a canned map. It is working good, but I would like a bit more perfection. Would it be better for me to get the bike dyno tuned for a couple hundred bucks, or go with the Auto-tune from Dynojet to add on to the Power Commander for a couple hunderd bucks? The way I see it, a dyno tune is a one time thing and I have to do it again if I change anything, and the Auto tune would be "reusable". And, they are both about the same price anyway.
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, I never claimed to be a smart man. I have just heard that getting the bike dyno tuned can be a shot in the dark as far as the tuner and setup goes and I may not get a good tune anyway.
Any input would be appreciated.
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If you want perfection, I think you should have a good shop tune the bike. I think that may be more than a couple hundred bucks though. I hear auto tunes may get you 95% there, but I have not seen dyno sheet comparisons.
If it was me, I'd sell the PCV and buy a TTS, and VTune it myself. Unless you have some strange problem, a VTune will get you closer to perfection for the street than most tuning shops would. You also can adapt to bike changes by simply re-Vtuning it rather spending the cash on another dyno tune. I have seen dyno sheet comparison and have heard seat of the pants comparisons between a Vtune and a dyno tune. Done well, both methods get you the same results, often VTune being better.
If it was me, I'd sell the PCV and buy a TTS, and VTune it myself. Unless you have some strange problem, a VTune will get you closer to perfection for the street than most tuning shops would. You also can adapt to bike changes by simply re-Vtuning it rather spending the cash on another dyno tune. I have seen dyno sheet comparison and have heard seat of the pants comparisons between a Vtune and a dyno tune. Done well, both methods get you the same results, often VTune being better.
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From: NorCal - Land of Pinkos and Prix
Dragon 5 - I'm thinking the same thing as you. I've just done some cams and will eventually change exhaust I'm sure. Even if autotune is "only 95%" that seems pretty darn good to me. Especially when a shop tune isn't always 100% anyway.
Another thing I'm considering that makes keeping the PC-V worthwhile is the potential for smog checks looming in the future, at least here in Kali. I would be able to de-tune the bike long enough to pass the inspection, then autotune it back to where it needs to be.
Another thing I'm considering that makes keeping the PC-V worthwhile is the potential for smog checks looming in the future, at least here in Kali. I would be able to de-tune the bike long enough to pass the inspection, then autotune it back to where it needs to be.
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From: Cameron, NC
All I really want to do is tune out the popping on decel, but there really is no how to manual for the PC V. I don't want to change anything without really knowing what changing the values ultimately does to the bike.
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And with the VE's already established thru the VTune process (TTS), the need to auto-tune is not necessary.
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From: Lewisberry PA
Check out these posts on PCV and AT
Here is a thread that you can read plenty on the AT. I had 1 on my 08 and am putting on my new bike. I like the fact that it does allow me to add/change parts and it does adjust.
As far as the decel pop, it may not help with that. Check out this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...e-info-17.html
As far as the decel pop, it may not help with that. Check out this thread:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...e-info-17.html
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