another ThunderMax ECM install
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
We just installed the Thunder Max with autotune on my 07 FLHX; the only thing that took a little effort was tweaking the bung on the rear Vance & Hines header to get the clearance needed for the longer sensor. With trying to reprogram the stock ECU my bike surged, popped and was irritating to ride. With the Thunder Max my bike runs and idles perfect THIS WAS THE BEST INVESTMENT I MADE!
Vance & Hines headers
Bassani 4" Slant Cut mufflers
Speed Performance Air Cleaner
Vance & Hines headers
Bassani 4" Slant Cut mufflers
Speed Performance Air Cleaner
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
ORIGINAL: ToBeFrank
After much research, I decided to put a ThunderMax ECM on my bike. I've got an '03 Fatboy stage 1 download, Vance and Hines Big Radius pipes, and a Doherty Powerpacc. It ran ok for the 3 years I ran it with just the stage 1 download, but it pops on decel and ran 260 oil temps on hot days. I initially went with the V&H Fuelpak, which sucked. It stumbled bad rolling on in 3rd gear. After getting fed up with it I took it off and looked for an alternative. I went with the ThunderMax with the intention of going to a 95 build and the AutoTune at some point in the future.
I initially had problems where I couldn't get my laptop to link up with the ECM. Here's where the ThunderMax support comes in handy. They're great! We eventually decided it had to be a bad serial cable and they sent me out a new one. A week later I had the new cable and the linking problems were gone. Today I did the initial install of letting it idle to 289 degrees head temp while it auto adjusted the IAC stops. I then took it out for a spin. WOW! So this is what my bike is supposed to run like. I was only able to do a 20 mile ride, but I had zero popping and it accelerates much quicker. Starting out I thought the speedo calibration was wrong because I was doing 70 in 4th gear but the RPMs sounded too low. In fact, I was already in 5th gear and didn't know it because I had flipped through the gears so quickly! I can't believe what a difference it is. I won't know for sure about oil temps and performance until we're in the 100 degree days of summer, but so far I am thoroughly impressed and would definitely recommend the ThunderMax. With the exception of my cable problem, it truly is plug and play.
After much research, I decided to put a ThunderMax ECM on my bike. I've got an '03 Fatboy stage 1 download, Vance and Hines Big Radius pipes, and a Doherty Powerpacc. It ran ok for the 3 years I ran it with just the stage 1 download, but it pops on decel and ran 260 oil temps on hot days. I initially went with the V&H Fuelpak, which sucked. It stumbled bad rolling on in 3rd gear. After getting fed up with it I took it off and looked for an alternative. I went with the ThunderMax with the intention of going to a 95 build and the AutoTune at some point in the future.
I initially had problems where I couldn't get my laptop to link up with the ECM. Here's where the ThunderMax support comes in handy. They're great! We eventually decided it had to be a bad serial cable and they sent me out a new one. A week later I had the new cable and the linking problems were gone. Today I did the initial install of letting it idle to 289 degrees head temp while it auto adjusted the IAC stops. I then took it out for a spin. WOW! So this is what my bike is supposed to run like. I was only able to do a 20 mile ride, but I had zero popping and it accelerates much quicker. Starting out I thought the speedo calibration was wrong because I was doing 70 in 4th gear but the RPMs sounded too low. In fact, I was already in 5th gear and didn't know it because I had flipped through the gears so quickly! I can't believe what a difference it is. I won't know for sure about oil temps and performance until we're in the 100 degree days of summer, but so far I am thoroughly impressed and would definitely recommend the ThunderMax. With the exception of my cable problem, it truly is plug and play.
(https://www.hdforums.com/m_2392135/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm Post#48 )
Smells a little Fishy to me.
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
ORIGINAL: ToBeFrank
I won't know for sure about oil temps and performance until we're in the 100 degree days of summer
I won't know for sure about oil temps and performance until we're in the 100 degree days of summer
(https://www.hdforums.com/m_2392135/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm Post#48 )
Smells a little Fishy to me.
You really don't do your research very well do you? Did you happen to notice that the post you quoted was posted on 1/18/2007? Yes, that's January of LAST year. In this hemisphere, January is winter which leads to spring which then goes into summer. As you've quoted in red, I hadn't run it in summer yet. Now that summer has come and gone, being that it's now a year later, I definitely did see a 15 degree drop in oil temperature. Anything else you'd like to contribute?
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
Franks: Follow the link provided. Only a blind Man can't see the date:
RE: Terminal Velocity vs. Thundermax Closed loop - 1/3/2008 4:41:14 PM
You just posted that remark only a couple a days ago. It says 2008, like the rest of the thread. You must have been pretty desperate to make up a story that you already had the Tmax unit on your bike and even fabricated make believe temperature numbers. But if we are to believe the prior post, then you have been running the Tmax since the summer and this thread is made up. Which is it?
RE: Terminal Velocity vs. Thundermax Closed loop - 1/3/2008 4:41:14 PM
You just posted that remark only a couple a days ago. It says 2008, like the rest of the thread. You must have been pretty desperate to make up a story that you already had the Tmax unit on your bike and even fabricated make believe temperature numbers. But if we are to believe the prior post, then you have been running the Tmax since the summer and this thread is made up. Which is it?
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
ORIGINAL: Techman201
Franks: Follow the link provided. Only a blind Man can't see the date:
RE: Terminal Velocity vs. Thundermax Closed loop - 1/3/2008 4:41:14 PM
You just posted that remark only a couple a days ago. It says 2008, like the rest of the thread. You must have been pretty desperate to make up a story that you already had the Tmax unit on your bike and even fabricated make believe temperature numbers. But if we are to believe the prior post, then you have been running the Tmax since the summer and this thread is made up. Which is it?
Franks: Follow the link provided. Only a blind Man can't see the date:
RE: Terminal Velocity vs. Thundermax Closed loop - 1/3/2008 4:41:14 PM
You just posted that remark only a couple a days ago. It says 2008, like the rest of the thread. You must have been pretty desperate to make up a story that you already had the Tmax unit on your bike and even fabricated make believe temperature numbers. But if we are to believe the prior post, then you have been running the Tmax since the summer and this thread is made up. Which is it?
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Shoot, I just noticed these are your only two posts... you're a troll. I shouldn't even bother responding as anyone with a working brain can figure out one post is a year earlier than the other.
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Not to stick my nose where it does not belong, But I can vouch for tobefrank. I have followed his Highly informative posts on the t-max foralmost a year, not only on this forum but another one as well. Between the input of his and a few others, I went with the t-max, and I have no regrets!
RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
Hmm, well I am in the market for pipes, AC and tuner and have so far ruled out the Fuelpak, and now the PC3. I know the Tmax is more up front money, but it will be worth it to know the bike will run the way I want it to (and how it should) from the get go. Thanks for the very informative posts here. Now all I have to do is convince the wife........
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RE: another ThunderMax ECM install
Franks:
I'm looking at the Tmax software right now to see just how easy this would be. I have to tell you, to me it looks complicated. I just got finished searching the maps for a close base map to what I have, and I don't see anything relatively close.
My current set up is Stock head pipes, Rush mufflers (2 inch baffles) and a K&N 3909 air kit.
I don't see Rush mufflers listed, nor do I seesome of the other popular mufflers listed. Just Screaming Eagle mufflers, V&H, bassaniand another reference KW or KWHP, or KWHP100.
The screaming eagle mufflers aren't even listed for a 96 07 engine. Same for the Bassani's, not listed for a 96 motor.
Truth is there is only 23 maps for the 96 ci motor.
I'm running the latest version of smartlink.
If I had to figure this out on mine own I would be lost. What map # would be the best basemap for my Bike.
Thanks
I'm looking at the Tmax software right now to see just how easy this would be. I have to tell you, to me it looks complicated. I just got finished searching the maps for a close base map to what I have, and I don't see anything relatively close.
My current set up is Stock head pipes, Rush mufflers (2 inch baffles) and a K&N 3909 air kit.
I don't see Rush mufflers listed, nor do I seesome of the other popular mufflers listed. Just Screaming Eagle mufflers, V&H, bassaniand another reference KW or KWHP, or KWHP100.
The screaming eagle mufflers aren't even listed for a 96 07 engine. Same for the Bassani's, not listed for a 96 motor.
Truth is there is only 23 maps for the 96 ci motor.
I'm running the latest version of smartlink.
If I had to figure this out on mine own I would be lost. What map # would be the best basemap for my Bike.
Thanks
