The most basic tuner question, where do I start?
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The most basic tuner question, where do I start?
Greetings all. Here's my story...I bought a used bike that came with slip on's, an A/C, and a Fuel Moto FM-807 tuner. I've had the bike about a year and a half, and am about to do cams. I've never made any kind of tuner change, even when I changed out my stock headpipe to a 2-1-2. The tuner came with a usb cord and a 9 volt battery hook up, but the disc with the maps (I guess thats what's on it, I don't know) wasn't included. I'm talking to a different couple of tuners locally and will have a dyno tune after cams. I'm trying to gain some basic knowledge about the process of downloading a map that matches my particular combo and loading it to the tuner. I already contacted Fuel Moto but they don't support products purchased used. I have never connected the unit to a computer. I'm about to begin wading through all the info on the FM site, I was just hoping someone could just cut to the chase. Thanks.
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I think it's made by dynojet (same people as powercommander). Call them [dynojet] up and ask if 1. it is similar to the PC3 or PC5? 2. Will it take the same maps? 3. Ask them to send you a map closest to your setup.
Worth a shot.
Worth a shot.
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It's the PC3. I've found a sort of kind of map, but no map matches my particular brand components (S&S Power Tune duals/Rinehart slip on's, and Big Sucker A/C) and no mention of cams on any map. To be clear, I'm not going to map it myself I just am trying to gain an insight so I'll know a little about what's going on at the tuners. My head pipes have O2 bungs in them that are plugged, for all I know the tuner has some wideband sensors he can install just to do the tune and can alter the current map values. I don't know yet what is possible.
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From what I can make out the current map in your PC3 can be adjusted and fine tuned to work just right with your build. A different map may get closer to the optimum, but isn't essential if your builder is familiar with tuning the PC3. Take a look at the Power Commander website, which gives some useful information on what the PC3 can do. My reading of it is that getting a new map isn't essential, but talk that through when choosing your builder.
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From what I can make out the current map in your PC3 can be adjusted and fine tuned to work just right with your build. A different map may get closer to the optimum, but isn't essential if your builder is familiar with tuning the PC3. Take a look at the Power Commander website, which gives some useful information on what the PC3 can do. My reading of it is that getting a new map isn't essential, but talk that through when choosing your builder.
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It's the PC3. I've found a sort of kind of map, but no map matches my particular brand components (S&S Power Tune duals/Rinehart slip on's, and Big Sucker A/C) and no mention of cams on any map. To be clear, I'm not going to map it myself I just am trying to gain an insight so I'll know a little about what's going on at the tuners. My head pipes have O2 bungs in them that are plugged, for all I know the tuner has some wideband sensors he can install just to do the tune and can alter the current map values. I don't know yet what is possible.
Any of these maps may then be uploaded to the PC3.
Look for a stage 1 map (for now). Something with aftermarket A/C and slip-ons. It doesn't have to match the brand names on your components to get you in the ball park.
After you do the cams, look for a stage 2 map (stage 1 with cams) that uses your cams or one with similar specs, and download that.
A good tuner will use wideband sensors. Either with your bungs (if the correct size), or sniffers up the exhaust pipes. Make sure you get a copy of the tune and the dyno sheets.
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Greetings all. Here's my story...I bought a used bike that came with slip on's, an A/C, and a Fuel Moto FM-807 tuner. I've had the bike about a year and a half, and am about to do cams. I've never made any kind of tuner change, even when I changed out my stock headpipe to a 2-1-2. The tuner came with a usb cord and a 9 volt battery hook up, but the disc with the maps (I guess thats what's on it, I don't know) wasn't included. I'm talking to a different couple of tuners locally and will have a dyno tune after cams. I'm trying to gain some basic knowledge about the process of downloading a map that matches my particular combo and loading it to the tuner. I already contacted Fuel Moto but they don't support products purchased used. I have never connected the unit to a computer. I'm about to begin wading through all the info on the FM site, I was just hoping someone could just cut to the chase. Thanks.
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Greetings all. Here's my story...I bought a used bike that came with slip on's, an A/C, and a Fuel Moto FM-807 tuner. I've had the bike about a year and a half, and am about to do cams. I've never made any kind of tuner change, even when I changed out my stock headpipe to a 2-1-2. The tuner came with a usb cord and a 9 volt battery hook up, but the disc with the maps (I guess thats what's on it, I don't know) wasn't included. I'm talking to a different couple of tuners locally and will have a dyno tune after cams. I'm trying to gain some basic knowledge about the process of downloading a map that matches my particular combo and loading it to the tuner. I already contacted Fuel Moto but they don't support products purchased used. I have never connected the unit to a computer. I'm about to begin wading through all the info on the FM site, I was just hoping someone could just cut to the chase. Thanks.
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