LiveWire LiveWire Price
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Just don’t see how the Livewire ends well for the MoCo. Just the most basic internet search is going to put the LW in a bad place vs Zero or Lightning. $30k for the LW with a 70 mile highway range, 50 min recharge on a FAST charger, 92 mph top speed vs Lighting at $13k, 150mile range, 30 min recharge and a 150mph top speed?? Its a no brainer. And the likelihood is that HD will be facing a much larger player once Lightning or Zero gets acquired by a larger motorcycle maker.
If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I don’t see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isn’t known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I don’t see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isn’t known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
Last edited by Heatwave; Feb 14, 2019 at 08:48 PM.
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You are really not the target audience, so why not let the new generations decide. Putting down everything that's not an air-cooled V-Twin has been as much to blame for HDs decline as their own success. Just look at the V-Rod, and the potential for new buyers was squandered because of the reception by the core HD crowd.
You can build the bestest motor cycle the universe has ever seen, But if your market dont see value for money in what their buying,
It just aint going to be.
Wiz 🤘
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Just dont see how the Livewire ends well for the MoCo. Just the most basic internet search is going to put the LW in a bad place vs Zero or Lightning. $30k for the LW with a 70 mile highway range, 50 min recharge on a FAST charger, 92 mph top speed vs Lighting at $13k, 150mile range, 30 min recharge and a 150mph top speed?? Its a no brainer. And the likelihood is that HD will be facing a much larger player once Lightning or Zero gets acquired by a larger motorcycle maker.
If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I dont see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isnt known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
If the LW was $20k it would stand a chance because of the dealer network. But at $30k I dont see how it makes it past the first couple of years. And HD isnt known for lowering their prices so the LW will only go higher from $30k. IMO the LW will be pulled from the market faster than Buell.
There all going to be screwed.
Wiz 👍
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A $500 scoot that you get 60+ to the gallon.
Or a battery powered what ever Harley calls it for a couple grand that cant go no further than 50-60 miles on a charge.
I dont care if ya done see it , Bus gas is still king and will be for a freakin long time.
Wiz 🍻
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More new information just released on the Lightning. This thing is looking better by the day.
https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
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More new information just released on the Lightning. This thing is looking better by the day.
https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
https://electrek.co/2019/02/14/light...orcycle-motor/
And at that price its cheaper than a sporty 👍
Wiz 🥃
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