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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 03:07 PM
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I asked about power gains or loss in a different post and pretty much everyone said nothing to gain. Does anyone have proof from a wideband of back to back cat and decat on the air fuel ratio? I bought a take off head pipe and still want to get rid of the cat. I've seen other posts about it. Some said gets richer, some get leaner but no proof from a wideband or dyno. If the information is out there I haven't found it.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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I can not answer your question but I have a friend who decatted his pipe and installed Cobra NH slip ons and tuned with a power vision and the damn thing halls *****.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Dave
I asked about power gains or loss in a different post and pretty much everyone said nothing to gain. Does anyone have proof from a wideband of back to back cat and decat on the air fuel ratio? I bought a take off head pipe and still want to get rid of the cat. I've seen other posts about it. Some said gets richer, some get leaner but no proof from a wideband or dyno. If the information is out there I haven't found it.
If you look at fuelmoto dyno charts they show a gain with the catless headpipe but nothing you'd ever feel. Less heat and better sound made it worthwhile for me.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 09:29 PM
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I couldn't find one for just removing the cat. I'm not worried about a power gain. Just want to help it run cooler. I want to make sure the air fuel ratio doesn't go lean.

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If you look at fuelmoto dyno charts they show a gain with the catless headpipe but nothing you'd ever feel. Less heat and better sound made it worthwhile for me.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Dave
I couldn't find one for just removing the cat. I'm not worried about a power gain. Just want to help it run cooler. I want to make sure the air fuel ratio doesn't go lean.
There to lean from the factory.... stock.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Dave
I couldn't find one for just removing the cat. I'm not worried about a power gain. Just want to help it run cooler. I want to make sure the air fuel ratio doesn't go lean.
It definitely runs cooler and as far as the AFR going lean, that's where a good tuner comes in.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Psycho Dave
I couldn't find one for just removing the cat. I'm not worried about a power gain. Just want to help it run cooler. I want to make sure the air fuel ratio doesn't go lean.
Catless headpipe on its own prol won't make much difference to the heat. You have to add a little fuel. HD tuner is still EPA compliant so go with an aftermarket tuner and risk your drivetrain warranty while running better and cooler or stick with EPA....
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 10:09 AM
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Hope this doesn't turn into another warranty thread!
 
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A good tune will cool it down better than removing the cat and increasing airflow without appropriate recalibration of the fueling.
It should/would run fine (albeit lean as delivered) at cruise due to the O2 sensors. What the system can't do is compensate in the high load/rpm areas. Those areas do not use the O2 sensors to trim fuel so logically it must run leaner/hotter.
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If you look at fuelmoto dyno charts they show a gain with the catless headpipe but nothing you'd ever feel. Less heat and better sound made it worthwhile for me.
^^^Yep!^^^
 
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