M8 Warranty Friendly Exhaust Systems
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Wrong!
The slip ons you guys are mentioning are only "legal" with the stock HD head pipes. Why? Because that is where the cat is located. The EPA approved you are talking about is for noise only.
Putting any of these on your M8 bike with an aftermarket header will get your warranty denied.
These are all most definitely not "warranty friendly"!
Like my opening post said they must have cats to be "warranty friendly".
The slip ons you guys are mentioning are only "legal" with the stock HD head pipes. Why? Because that is where the cat is located. The EPA approved you are talking about is for noise only.
Putting any of these on your M8 bike with an aftermarket header will get your warranty denied.
These are all most definitely not "warranty friendly"!
Like my opening post said they must have cats to be "warranty friendly".
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I'd say just an overall good sound, not raspy or tinny, nice rumble..he says the mild, even decel crackling is gone from the OEM's and Street Canons and he likes that..I actually like the sound of the decel crackle, sounds like a well tuned engine to me, and am pleased with the sound and performance of the SC's. only way I would consider going a different route is if I have another loose baffle failure after the one year warranty, cuz you can't just buy one, then I would go with Kerker Slash or Monster Rounds.
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Wrong!
The slip ons you guys are mentioning are only "legal" with the stock HD head pipes. Why? Because that is where the cat is located. The EPA approved you are talking about is for noise only.
Putting any of these on your M8 bike with an aftermarket header will get your warranty denied
The slip ons you guys are mentioning are only "legal" with the stock HD head pipes. Why? Because that is where the cat is located. The EPA approved you are talking about is for noise only.
Putting any of these on your M8 bike with an aftermarket header will get your warranty denied
What we pointed out are EPA-CERTIFIED, LEGAL systems. They are legal for noise and sound. And they will not void your warranty.
The illegal part is the aftermarket header pipe! Once you put on an illegal header, then ANY slip-on you put on is also going to be illegal!
NOTHING will be legal with a catless aftermarket header pipe. NO catless aftermarket header pipe is warranty-friendly, if the stock bike's header has the cats in it. I mean, come on, that's just plain obvious... you put on that aftermarket catless header, you violated your warranty right there, even before you got to shopping for a muffler.
Every part we listed is an EPA-certified, CARB-approved replacement part. If your header pipe has the cat in it, these slip-ons are absolutely legal and warranty-friendly. And the S&S or Screamin' Eagle full exhausts include their own cats, so they're completely legal too.
Don't move the goalposts and then blast us with 72-point type 'cause of your mistake.
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Seriously???
What we pointed out are EPA-CERTIFIED, LEGAL systems. They are legal for noise and sound. And they will not void your warranty.
The illegal part is the aftermarket header pipe! Once you put on an illegal header, then ANY slip-on you put on is also going to be illegal!
NOTHING will be legal with a catless aftermarket header pipe. NO catless aftermarket header pipe is warranty-friendly, if the stock bike's header has the cats in it. I mean, come on, that's just plain obvious... you put on that aftermarket catless header, you violated your warranty right there, even before you got to shopping for a muffler.
Every part we listed is an EPA-certified, CARB-approved replacement part. If your header pipe has the cat in it, these slip-ons are absolutely legal and warranty-friendly. And the S&S or Screamin' Eagle full exhausts include their own cats, so they're completely legal too.
Don't move the goalposts and then blast us with 72-point type 'cause of your mistake.
What we pointed out are EPA-CERTIFIED, LEGAL systems. They are legal for noise and sound. And they will not void your warranty.
The illegal part is the aftermarket header pipe! Once you put on an illegal header, then ANY slip-on you put on is also going to be illegal!
NOTHING will be legal with a catless aftermarket header pipe. NO catless aftermarket header pipe is warranty-friendly, if the stock bike's header has the cats in it. I mean, come on, that's just plain obvious... you put on that aftermarket catless header, you violated your warranty right there, even before you got to shopping for a muffler.
Every part we listed is an EPA-certified, CARB-approved replacement part. If your header pipe has the cat in it, these slip-ons are absolutely legal and warranty-friendly. And the S&S or Screamin' Eagle full exhausts include their own cats, so they're completely legal too.
Don't move the goalposts and then blast us with 72-point type 'cause of your mistake.
The S&S Eldorado system I mentioned has cats in the mufflers. It has a catless aftermarket header pipe and the system is 100% "warranty friendly"!
The HD SE High Flow exhaust has no cat in the header, the cats are in the mufflers.
Read the name of the thread - "M8 Warranty Friendly Exhaust Systems" not which slip ons are EPA sound certified...... I specifically stated " They could be complete systems (with cats) or the they could be slip ons (with cats)". It takes a header and mufflers to make an exhaust system.
I did not move the goal posts, you (and many others) just did not bother to check where they were before you kicked the ball.
But I will agree that I could have done without the 72 point text....
Last edited by PFWiz; Jan 30, 2018 at 05:13 AM.
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WRONG
The S&S Eldorado system I mentioned has cats in the mufflers. It has a catless aftermarket header pipe and the system is 100% "warranty friendly"!
The HD SE High Flow exhaust has no cat in the header, the cats are in the mufflers.
Read the name of the thread - "M8 Warranty Friendly Exhaust Systems" not which slip ons are EPA sound certified...... I specifically stated " They could be complete systems (with cats) or the they could be slip ons (with cats)". It takes a header and mufflers to make an exhaust system.
I did not move the goal posts, you (and many others) just did not bother to check where they were before you kicked the ball.
But I will agree that I could have done without the 72 point text....
The S&S Eldorado system I mentioned has cats in the mufflers. It has a catless aftermarket header pipe and the system is 100% "warranty friendly"!
The HD SE High Flow exhaust has no cat in the header, the cats are in the mufflers.
Read the name of the thread - "M8 Warranty Friendly Exhaust Systems" not which slip ons are EPA sound certified...... I specifically stated " They could be complete systems (with cats) or the they could be slip ons (with cats)". It takes a header and mufflers to make an exhaust system.
I did not move the goal posts, you (and many others) just did not bother to check where they were before you kicked the ball.
But I will agree that I could have done without the 72 point text....
The system you mention is “100% warranty friendly”. Do you have a memo from HD stating that? I’m assuming you do so please post it as you undoubtly cleared this with HD to say it’s , in fact (?) 100% approved by Harley? You’re making an assumption here buddy, and while it should be true, it’s still an assumption.
I guess berating people is second nature to you ? Please move on to another forum as most of us would rather help each other and express our opinions without retribution such as yours
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My question is: on these "complete warranty friendly systems", are they like the SE system?
Meaning, the SE system as you said, moves the cats to the muffler sections. BUT it also has a different header pipe diameter. So, the owner cant buy that whole system and then swap out the mufflers and bam...no cats.
I would assume these other brands are doing something similar. Making the diameter different so slip ons cant be swapped out later.
Meaning, the SE system as you said, moves the cats to the muffler sections. BUT it also has a different header pipe diameter. So, the owner cant buy that whole system and then swap out the mufflers and bam...no cats.
I would assume these other brands are doing something similar. Making the diameter different so slip ons cant be swapped out later.
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Just one question, if you don’t mind. I keep seeing the term “warranty friendly”. I will make the assumption when you say that you have documentation directly from HD saying that the product is approved and covered under HD warranty procedures. Just asking for clarification.
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Just one question, if you dont mind. I keep seeing the term warranty friendly. I will make the assumption when you say that you have documentation directly from HD saying that the product is approved and covered under HD warranty procedures. Just asking for clarification.
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Well I guess anything is possible with MOCO. They can deny your warranty if it suits them at any given time. But I think one can assume that these aftermarket systems are mimicking what the SE full exhaust system has done. Which is move the cats to the mufflers. In which case, technically keeps your warranty in tact since you haven't removed the cat.
So sounds like the answer is....no.