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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 04:57 AM
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is there a fix from moco yet? 2017 CVO SG rides like a 250 Honda non rebel lol friggin bs
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 05:03 AM
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is there a fix from moco yet? 2017 CVO SG rides like a 250 Honda non rebel lol friggin bs
It should still be under warranty, let the dealer fix it, from your description they can't really make it worse.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 05:24 AM
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It should still be under warranty, let the dealer fix it, from your description they can't really make it worse.
who the hell wants their bike in their garage ? I paid $68,000 Canadian come on now don’t under mind the situation thx...
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 05:30 AM
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who the hell wants their bike in their garage ? I paid $68,000 Canadian come on now don’t under mind the situation thx...
How is HD going to fix it if you don't take it in?
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 05:57 AM
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If you won't let Harley fix it, then write a check to one of the well known builders, and hope they can work their magic.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 06:52 AM
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A fix? Maybe. Buy and install these parts:

$74.42 62400182 OIL PUMP ASSEMBLY WITH 601, 8873, 26210-99, 26400-82B, 62400052 AND BODY (TWIN-COOLED) ALSO ORDER 62400055
$27.00 62400206 COVER OIL PUMP ASSEMBLY, WITH 62400205

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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Okay been looking through the threads on sumping. I will admit up front that I am not mechanically inclined, but can someone explain very simply what sumping is? Not the effects, but what is happening..... You have engine oil, transmission oil and oil in the primary. Is it oil migrating from the engine to the transmission or engine to primary or something else? I checked my engine oil and it was 5-6 ounces low after about 2K miles after last service. Yes people are sick of this topic, just trying to understand.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 10:07 AM
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Okay been looking through the threads on sumping. I will admit up front that I am not mechanically inclined, but can someone explain very simply what sumping is? Not the effects, but what is happening..... You have engine oil, transmission oil and oil in the primary. Is it oil migrating from the engine to the transmission or engine to primary or something else? I checked my engine oil and it was 5-6 ounces low after about 2K miles after last service. Yes people are sick of this topic, just trying to understand.
the Sump in most engines is at the bottom of the engine more commonly known as the “oil pan”. In some cars and motorcycles, such as ours, we have what is called a dry sump, which in a nutshell means that the “oil pan” is relocated elsewhere than the bottom of the engine among other things allowing the engine to sit lower to the ground to keep CG more favorable. Their are other benefits FYI, but in a nut shell the bottom of the engine is kept clear of excess oil by the oil pump that pushes the oil to the oil tank, at the same time as it pulls oil from the tank to give to the rest of the engine. In the cases where these bikes “sump” it means for whatever reason the oil is pooling in the bottom of the crankcase where there is not enough space for it to be pooled up without being in the way, it is getting hot and frothy from the crank whipping around and is causing interference robbing power and causing damage.

There is more to it, but that is a down and dirty.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by skid_pimp


the Sump in most engines is at the bottom of the engine more commonly known as the “oil pan”. In some cars and motorcycles, such as ours, we have what is called a dry sump, which in a nutshell means that the “oil pan” is relocated elsewhere than the bottom of the engine among other things allowing the engine to sit lower to the ground to keep CG more favorable. Their are other benefits FYI, but in a nut shell the bottom of the engine is kept clear of excess oil by the oil pump that pushes the oil to the oil tank, at the same time as it pulls oil from the tank to give to the rest of the engine. In the cases where these bikes “sump” it means for whatever reason the oil is pooling in the bottom of the crankcase where there is not enough space for it to be pooled up without being in the way, it is getting hot and frothy from the crank whipping around and is causing interference robbing power and causing damage.

There is more to it, but that is a down and dirty.
Thanks. So just to be clear (for me) it means there is too much oil in the crankcase (which is the transmission). If the transmission level is normal there should be no issue. Is this correct? Don't shoot me for not knowing all the right terms.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by riknbeth
Thanks. So just to be clear (for me) it means there is too much oil in the crankcase (which is the transmission). If the transmission level is normal there should be no issue. Is this correct? Don't shoot me for not knowing all the right terms.
i don't think the transmission has anything to do with this sumping issue...
 
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