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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 11:39 AM
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Do stock heads work with the S&S 124 kit? I believe that although not communicated on Fuel Moto site, their 107 to 124 kit requires ported heads.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochviper
Do stock heads work with the S&S 124 kit? I believe that although not communicated on Fuel Moto site, their 107 to 124 kit requires ported heads.
Fuel Moto has posted several dyno runs on 124” builds with stock heads and good results. Depending on the cam that is being used the valve springs may need to be changed.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 04:25 PM
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Tech support told me directly they won't sell 124 kit for stock heads.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2018 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochviper
Tech support told me directly they won't sell 124 kit for stock heads.
The cam they sell with the kit requires the valve springs in your stock heads to be changed....making them no longer stock.
 
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Appreciate the info.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochviper
Do stock heads work with the S&S 124 kit?
Yes, your stock heads will work fine with the S&S kit. Follow the detailed instructions and you will be fine as long as you use a "bolt in" cam.

Also note that the pistons are in the hole and the cylinders will need to be cut to correct this. You will need to measure this depth as they aren't all the same.

Here is a stage III 124" we just did with stock heads, stock throttle body and a new Cycle-Rama torque cam.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 07:30 PM
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That went over my head. “The pistons are in the hole and the cylinders need to be cut”. So this isn’t a simple bolt on mod I can do in my garage?
 
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Originally Posted by Rochviper
That went over my head. “The pistons are in the hole and the cylinders need to be cut”. So this isn’t a simple bolt on mod I can do in my garage?
You can just bolt them on and go, however, I have seen them .015" to .019" in the hole. This is something that I feel needs to be corrected and not that big of a deal. I have a local machinist do them for me when needed.

For comparison the stock M8's I have measured were.007"-.008" in the hole. (pistons below deck at TDC).
 
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Originally Posted by Rochviper
That went over my head. “The pistons are in the hole and the cylinders need to be cut”. So this isn’t a simple bolt on mod I can do in my garage?
Last 124" set we had, were .023" below deck.
We are beyond equipped/tooled to machine to "0" deck, and we perform those services for other shops as well.
All part of building an engine and checking the details.
S&S 117" Evo engines, are usually -.045", and have seen up to .052", and when establishing 0 deck on those, the spigot also has to be machined to clear.
Piece of cake.
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Originally Posted by alexobelix
which injectors were used?

Very interesting build! Wonder what could be expected with stock heads...
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