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Old Mar 11, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Just sucks that we are all here trying to re- engineer a piece of machinery that we paid nearly 30k for just to get it to have drivability and dependability.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2019 | 01:28 PM
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Service manager at my dealership told me I was lugging it and causing it to transfer oil...you would think they could come up with something better than that...
 
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Old Mar 11, 2019 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by drod
Service manager at my dealership told me I was lugging it and causing it to transfer oil...you would think they could come up with something better than that...
Unbelievable
 
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Old Mar 11, 2019 | 08:50 PM
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I ordered the new clutch rod from Greg Williams last fall but didn't install it yet, too cold. But did I read on another thread their was a new variant of the fat clutch rod that had better contact points possibly? I messaged Greg a few days ago but never got a reply. Is he out of the clutch rod businesses now?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2019 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
I haven’t seen any description on why the “fat flat rode” works.

I’m thinking that since the issue is due to a lower pressure developing in the primary, it sucks from the transmission. Maybe some primaries leak a little pressure, and thereby didn’t develop enough vacuum to suck from the transmission. The flat side of the rod allows pressure equalization between the primary and transmission. They make it a bit thicker, because the stock rod does not have enough material thickness to create the needed flat, and it would also weaken it....

But, I could be wrong...I thought I was once...but I was mistaken. So now I am..
Well IMO, It's pressure variations stemming from the Slip-assist pressure plate changing clamping load plus possibly some additional pulses from mainshaft seal flex / leakage. Pulsations are caused by resulting forces the power stroke and slowing on compression for upstroke. Flywheels do not spin at a constant speed. That's why these bikes need compensators.

Anyway the thinner pushrod has enough clearance to allow the pulses to do their work. Fatter PR is 44% heaver and the clearance around the rod is decreased from about 38 thou to say 6 thou.. No sucking action gets through.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drod
Service manager at my dealership told me I was lugging it and causing it to transfer oil...you would think they could come up with something better than that...
You should never speak to him again,you can't fix stupid.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by drod
Service manager at my dealership told me I was lugging it and causing it to transfer oil...you would think they could come up with something better than that...
And if you spin it at higher revs it'll sump

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2019 | 12:48 PM
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Long story short..... It doesn't suck! LOL



Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Well IMO, It's pressure variations stemming from the Slip-assist pressure plate changing clamping load plus possibly some additional pulses from mainshaft seal flex / leakage. Pulsations are caused by resulting forces the power stroke and slowing on compression for upstroke. Flywheels do not spin at a constant speed. That's why these bikes need compensators.

Anyway the thinner pushrod has enough clearance to allow the pulses to do their work. Fatter PR is 44% heaver and the clearance around the rod is decreased from about 38 thou to say 6 thou.. No sucking action gets through.
 
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New 19’ only 250 miles on it since I bought it last week but the fluids are staying put. 👍
 
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Old Mar 14, 2019 | 07:05 AM
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Is the flat on the larger rod even necessary? Has it been tried without?
 
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