M8 Oil Consumption
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M8 Oil Consumption
While I was aware of he sumping and migration issues before I bought my ‘19 RG, I was not prepared for the oil that my bike is using. I have about 3900 miles on her and have gone about 2800 since the 1K. Checking the bike over in preparing for a trip I was down about 1.5 qts. Run to the dealer and they say it’s normal and the motor company says one qt per 1,000 miles is “allowable “. So my question is is this just the motor breaking in, will it get better or worse and does it matter what oil I use (have the SYN3 in there now with Formula + in the tranny (which seems ok). Thanks in advance.
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While I was aware of he sumping and migration issues before I bought my ‘19 RG, I was not prepared for the oil that my bike is using. I have about 3900 miles on her and have gone about 2800 since the 1K. Checking the bike over in preparing for a trip I was down about 1.5 qts. Run to the dealer and they say it’s normal and the motor company says one qt per 1,000 miles is “allowable “. So my question is is this just the motor breaking in, will it get better or worse and does it matter what oil I use (have the SYN3 in there now with Formula + in the tranny (which seems ok). Thanks in advance.
"TECH TIP: Feuling highly recommends staying off the rev limiter and running conventional oil in the M8 engines to help maintain ring seal and minimize blow by."
looking at your timeline of events it sounds like after your 1K service your first oil check was 3900 miles, which is a reasonable assumption since if you had been checking more often you would have noticed it getting lower all along and been adding as appropriate.. and yes, mine at least started life consuming more oil than it does now at 33000..hope everything turns out ok
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Erilflynn (06-07-2019)
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Here's what the Mo Co says, in a note from the Mo Co that I have personally seen: 1QT every 1500 miles (not 1000) is acceptable.
Quite remarkable, but true. Also, acceptable leak down is up to 25% (look in your service manual, I'm not making this up). More than that requires further diagnosis. Sad but true.
Quite remarkable, but true. Also, acceptable leak down is up to 25% (look in your service manual, I'm not making this up). More than that requires further diagnosis. Sad but true.
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Campy Roadie (06-10-2019)
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Although that is the method Harley says to use, if you let it idle upright it will show more oil and be more accurate. Idling on the side stand will ensure more oil is left in the engine case.
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A quart every 1,000 miles isnt what you should expect from a properly machined engine , assembled with quality parts used in a passenger car of motorcycle.Once things wear out, yes.. But not during its normal expected lifetime.
I know HD says its normal.. But thats sad. That means they're saying, we cant maintain consistent bore size and finish , or valve guide clearance and seals such that oil wont get where its not supposed to get.
I could see if it was turning 20,000 RPM for those 1,000 miles yes, perhaps. Because those oil control components are seeing the same distance as an engine with 10,000 miles.
And even thats a push. You could make the argument that the air cooled barrels have trouble staying round once hot, but that can be addressed in the design, construction and machining process.
Sucks people have to deal with this crap.
I know HD says its normal.. But thats sad. That means they're saying, we cant maintain consistent bore size and finish , or valve guide clearance and seals such that oil wont get where its not supposed to get.
I could see if it was turning 20,000 RPM for those 1,000 miles yes, perhaps. Because those oil control components are seeing the same distance as an engine with 10,000 miles.
And even thats a push. You could make the argument that the air cooled barrels have trouble staying round once hot, but that can be addressed in the design, construction and machining process.
Sucks people have to deal with this crap.
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s-glide76 (06-07-2019)