Another (probably) Stage 1 questions thread.
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Stage 1 is really about looks and sound. The plus is that its all reusable. Im using the same AC, tuner, and slip-one from my stage 1. Assuming you dont change your mind on looks.
there is a slight difference in performance. If you ride once a week, you may not notice. If you ride daily and know your bike well, you will see a little difference. Stage 2 will be replaced if you stick with H-D and your warranty unless you plan to stop there which is entirely feasible as its a good bang for the buck.
there is a slight difference in performance. If you ride once a week, you may not notice. If you ride daily and know your bike well, you will see a little difference. Stage 2 will be replaced if you stick with H-D and your warranty unless you plan to stop there which is entirely feasible as its a good bang for the buck.
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maybe the 107 is different, but Ive had the ventilator on my bike since I bought it and never noticed those wires. Unless you are crouched down looking up, you cant see them.
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Stage 1 is really about looks and sound. The plus is that its all reusable. Im using the same AC, tuner, and slip-one from my stage 1. Assuming you dont change your mind on looks.
there is a slight difference in performance. If you ride once a week, you may not notice. If you ride daily and know your bike well, you will see a little difference. Stage 2 will be replaced if you stick with H-D and your warranty unless you plan to stop there which is entirely feasible as its a good bang for the buck.
there is a slight difference in performance. If you ride once a week, you may not notice. If you ride daily and know your bike well, you will see a little difference. Stage 2 will be replaced if you stick with H-D and your warranty unless you plan to stop there which is entirely feasible as its a good bang for the buck.
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I'm sure lots of folk say this, but I honestly can't see myself going above stage 2, I don't want the bike too loud and I'm not a lairy rider so don't need massive performance. I like torque, and from memory the 114 on the Road King Special is ample for my wants. If stage 2 gets me to that point I'd be happy (as long as it's not too loud )
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Was looking at stage 2, then the money and service costs would be out the window if I went larger. Stage 3 wasn't too bad on price. When they released the Stage 4, I could get it all at once and the price wasn't crazy. I was told by 2 dealers since it was a new release, Harley would honor the warranty/extended warranty essentially bypassing the 60 day rule. The website actually said similar. Since then, they have added wording in the description to the 60 day rule, so who knows. Hopefully I'll never have to find out
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When I went from the 88 to 114, I said this was as much power as anyone would need and I'd be good for years. 1.5 years later and I just went 131. Was looking at stage 2, then the money and service costs would be out the window if I went larger. Stage 3 wasn't too bad on price. When they released the Stage 4, I could get it all at once and the price wasn't crazy. I was told by 2 dealers since it was a new release, Harley would honor the warranty/extended warranty essentially bypassing the 60 day rule. The website actually said similar. Since then, they have added wording in the description to the 60 day rule, so who knows. Hopefully I'll never have to find out
Was looking at stage 2, then the money and service costs would be out the window if I went larger. Stage 3 wasn't too bad on price. When they released the Stage 4, I could get it all at once and the price wasn't crazy. I was told by 2 dealers since it was a new release, Harley would honor the warranty/extended warranty essentially bypassing the 60 day rule. The website actually said similar. Since then, they have added wording in the description to the 60 day rule, so who knows. Hopefully I'll never have to find outI must admit I’m really put off by those cables (well more the plug) hanging underneath the high flow and ventilator a/c’s
I could do with seeing them in real life to see how much I’d notice it. There’s always the round a/c’s but they don’t appear to do them in chrome, except the additional cover plates you can buy.Its a shame the one shown here in post #3096 doesn’t fit the M8, that looks great.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...hread-310.html
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Snerkler,
Changing out the intake from what you have currently (even with retune) won't likely increase sound levels too much. IE changing from stock pipes to V&H already made your leap in decibels. Cam changes, decatting header, or increasing displacement will make everything much louder though... possibly in the same increments. Haven't tested mine but from stock M8 107 to torque Stage 2 with decat and boneshakers was a tremendous leap. For me, in the correct direction.
Ride safe.
JS2
Changing out the intake from what you have currently (even with retune) won't likely increase sound levels too much. IE changing from stock pipes to V&H already made your leap in decibels. Cam changes, decatting header, or increasing displacement will make everything much louder though... possibly in the same increments. Haven't tested mine but from stock M8 107 to torque Stage 2 with decat and boneshakers was a tremendous leap. For me, in the correct direction.
Ride safe.
JS2
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Snerkler,
Changing out the intake from what you have currently (even with retune) won't likely increase sound levels too much. IE changing from stock pipes to V&H already made your leap in decibels. Cam changes, decatting header, or increasing displacement will make everything much louder though... possibly in the same increments. Haven't tested mine but from stock M8 107 to torque Stage 2 with decat and boneshakers was a tremendous leap. For me, in the correct direction.
Ride safe.
JS2
Changing out the intake from what you have currently (even with retune) won't likely increase sound levels too much. IE changing from stock pipes to V&H already made your leap in decibels. Cam changes, decatting header, or increasing displacement will make everything much louder though... possibly in the same increments. Haven't tested mine but from stock M8 107 to torque Stage 2 with decat and boneshakers was a tremendous leap. For me, in the correct direction.
Ride safe.
JS2
Last edited by snerkler; May 13, 2020 at 02:10 PM.
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I don’t know how the upgrades affect warranty in the UK tbh, I guess I’ll be able to find out a lot more when the lockdown’s over and I can pop dish to my local dealership.
I must admit I’m really put off by those cables (well more the plug) hanging underneath the high flow and ventilator a/c’s I could do with seeing them in real life to see how much I’d notice it. There’s always the round a/c’s but they don’t appear to do them in chrome, except the additional cover plates you can buy.
Its a shame the one shown here in post #3096 doesn’t fit the M8, that looks great.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...hread-310.html
I must admit I’m really put off by those cables (well more the plug) hanging underneath the high flow and ventilator a/c’s
I could do with seeing them in real life to see how much I’d notice it. There’s always the round a/c’s but they don’t appear to do them in chrome, except the additional cover plates you can buy.Its a shame the one shown here in post #3096 doesn’t fit the M8, that looks great.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...hread-310.html
Last edited by mjwebb; May 13, 2020 at 02:47 PM.