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Hi for you pros out there been working on correcting my tune what do you think about the VE tables after auto tunning around the 3500 rpm range the scale is pretty high and I had to cap a couple of cells.?
Thanks .
Hi for you pros out there been working on correcting my tune what do you think about the VE tables after auto tunning around the 3500 rpm range the scale is pretty high and I had to cap a couple of cells.?
Thanks .
You're only talking 4 cells. One in the decel area (3500 rpm @ 20KPa) and three in the medium load area (3500 rpm @25, 30, & 40 KPa)
I'd cap them..
From Fuelmotos's web site:
Q)What is Cap or Scale and what should I select?
A) When you export your learned corrections with Auto Tune and it asks you to cap or scale this means that there is a cell or cells in the VE tables that are at or have exceeded the high limit of the VE table of 127.5. If you select Cap it will “cap” the cell(s) at 127.5 and correct the rest of the VE tables based on your Auto Tune data. If you select Scale it will raise the displacement constant (cubic inch) within the calibration and then normalize (lower) the VE tables. Choosing Cap or Scale will depend on not only the amount of cells that are maxed at 127.5 but also the load range they are located. If you have only a single cell or small cluster at 127.5 in most cases we would recommend capping, especially if the cells are in the lighter load or decel area. If you have a large cluster of cells that are maxed or of they are in the higher load or WOT areas you may need to select Scale. Some important considerations when scaling; you will want to have as much data as possible before selecting scale as the entire VE table will be changed and normalized for the difference in displacement. In some cases depending on the amount of correction and the data itself it may scale excessively, this can result in an abnormally high displacement constant and abnormally low VE tables. Generally speaking, most scaled maps on mildly modified motors should be within 10-15 CI of the actual engine displacement, however it not uncommon on extensively modified motors to end up the CI in the 140-150 range.
Didn't give us much info, but here's mine:
This is a 107, S&S 475C, combo of dyno tuning and wideband tuning, V&H power duals.
Tuning is much more difficult than looking at VE's. They are a result of many other things, and should never be copied from one bike to another, especially as sloppy as Harley's tolerances seem to be.
Didn't give us much info, but here's mine:
This is a 107, S&S 475C, combo of dyno tuning and wideband tuning, V&H power duals.
Tuning is much more difficult than looking at VE's. They are a result of many other things, and should never be copied from one bike to another, especially as sloppy as Harley's tolerances seem to be.
Yes I have been trying to get my tune correct now for several months ,not a hole lot of info out there other than bits and pieces, going to half to go for a Dyno tune.
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Didn't give us much info, but here's mine:
This is a 107, S&S 475C, combo of dyno tuning and wideband tuning, V&H power duals.
Tuning is much more difficult than looking at VE's. They are a result of many other things, and should never be copied from one bike to another, especially as sloppy as Harley's tolerances seem to be.
Just curious if you did your wide band tunning before or after your dyno.
I'm running wide band and do Target Tune on the PV. Thanks
Just curious if you did your wide band tunning before or after your dyno.
I'm running wide band and do Target Tune on the PV. Thanks
Started with the Fuel Moto tune on the PV I bought. It was terrible. Rather than spending a ton of time on the road experimenting, I took it to a local reputable dyno tuner. Bike ran much better, but real world riding is very different from dyno tuning. Bought the Harley wideband kit (was less expensive than target tune), and fine-tuned it myself.
Started with the Fuel Moto tune on the PV I bought. It was terrible. Rather than spending a ton of time on the road experimenting, I took it to a local reputable dyno tuner. Bike ran much better, but real world riding is very different from dyno tuning. Bought the Harley wideband kit (was less expensive than target tune), and fine-tuned it myself.
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