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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 07:12 AM
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I'm wondering if there's a fan favorite with Cycle-Rama vs. Star Racing compensator ramps?

One is 4140 chromoly tool steel and the other is billet EN36 case hardened. I have no idea what that means or what the difference is between the two.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 07:23 AM
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Case hardened means only the outer few millimeters of the surface is actually hardened. 4140 tool steel is very hard, very tough, but also heavy.

Since we're on the subject, anyone ever wonder why the OEM compensator ramps aren't finished? Rough cast on rough cast on parts designed to slip against each other seems stupid.
 
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Default Finish on compensator ramps.

Originally Posted by Crabchuck
Case hardened means only the outer few millimeters of the surface is actually hardened. 4140 tool steel is very hard, very tough, but also heavy.

Since we're on the subject, anyone ever wonder why the OEM compensator ramps aren't finished? Rough cast on rough cast on parts designed to slip against each other seems stupid.
I guess because the ramp faces are not really friction loaded. They just kind of float and don't need to tightly lap up against the sister piece. (except on hard launches). I once read of someone actually taking the time to machine smooth all of the ramps faces (both components) thinking they had cured the problem of self destruction in the long term. They admitted taking these steps caused no further longevity to the components. So perhaps HD also see's the extra step as no added benefit or extra cost they would pass on to the customer.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 702
I'm wondering if there's a fan favorite with Cycle-Rama vs. Star Racing compensator ramps?

One is 4140 chromoly tool steel and the other is billet EN36 case hardened. I have no idea what that means or what the difference is between the two.
Chromoly is a steel alloy that is supposedly stronger than steel. Not sure about case hardened.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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The differences have been stated above, but the Cycle Rama unit I have really felt no heavier than the stock comp. A scale may prove otherwise, but that was my observation.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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I'm leaning toward the Cycle-Rama but can't find one in stock anywhere. FuelMoto thinks they're 5 - 6 weeks out. I sure wish these supply chain issues would get straightened out.
 
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 12:37 PM
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The Cycle Rama ramp is constructed from 4140 chromoly, this steel alloy is used in high stress applications such as bearings & races and very commonly with cutting & machine tools (hence the name "tool steel"). The Star Racing ramp is billet EN36 & case hardened, this offers an extremely high tensile strength and is commonly used in components such as gears, connecting rods, and crankshafts. A blanket answer is both the Cycle-Rama an Star Racing comp ramps are equally effective in elimination of ramp failure. We've sold and installed many of each and have encountered zero issues.
 
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Both are very similar but the tensile strength is higher with chromoly.... which is prob why they case harden the en36 Both are tough materials
 
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Are Compensator Ramps still an issue on the later models? What research MXJ has done on this issue makes it sound like the 2012 and earlier models were most affected by the shiesty Comp-Ramps.
 
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Originally Posted by MXJunky
Are Compensator Ramps still an issue on the later models? What research MXJ has done on this issue makes it sound like the 2012 and earlier models were most affected by the shiesty Comp-Ramps.
It depends on who you want to believe, but I've seen enough M8 ramps break that I've decided to be proactive and replace it.
 
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