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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 01:27 PM
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How long would it take to do a Stage 2 upgrade?
To include changing the lifters, tappet cuffs and header pipe at the same time.
Being quoted 9 hours by HD. Is that fair?
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 01:38 PM
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Harley dealer in Virginia is doing the SE stage 2 kit and install for $825 US. That does not include tuner, air cleaner or mufflers. That would make labor about 5 hours. I’ve seen dealers from 4-8 hours, the last one I had done charged me 6 hours at $85/hr.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 02:27 PM
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Indy charged me 3 1/2 hours. That was including swapping headers, cam lifters, and all the other parts needed. Also included installing the canned tune from FM with the PV 2 tuner.
9 hours is crazy. I could see some extra if you had lowers on...especially if it was twin cooled.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 02:59 PM
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Just for comparison, Fuel Moto did a complete 128 on my bike including dyno break in and tune in a day so yeah 9 hours seems excessive for a cam job.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Quik
Just for comparison, Fuel Moto did a complete 128 on my bike including dyno break in and tune in a day so yeah 9 hours seems excessive for a cam job.
9 hours is over $1,300 in labor, then the dyno. Staying stock for the time being i think.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rossWG
9 hours is over $1,300 in labor, then the dyno. Staying stock for the time being i think.
Have you considered using an Indy shop? I paid 3 hours labor at $60 per hour when I first did my stage 2 ($180 total labor)
 
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Old Mar 11, 2022 | 08:47 PM
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Doing it myself, I would say fitting the new exhaust takes longer than the actual camshaft install. The heat shields and fitting it all to be good is time consuming. 4 hours would be the max for a real shop with experience on the HD stuff.
 
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Hell it took me probably 8 hours and that was being **** with triple checking stuff, waiting 30minutes each lifter bleed down, checking runout, heating up tappet cover screws to break loktite free, etc. A lot of things that I guarantee HD ain't doing. The average Joe not having the experience, taking their time, in no hurry, lol, I could see 9 hours but a dealer that does this all the time, 4-5 tops.
 
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Not on an M8 but it took me around 6 hours to do what you described on my Twin Cam.
 
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Originally Posted by cactusred
Hell it took me probably 8 hours and that was being **** with triple checking stuff, waiting 30minutes each lifter bleed down, checking runout, heating up tappet cover screws to break loktite free, etc. A lot of things that I guarantee HD ain't doing. The average Joe not having the experience, taking their time, in no hurry, lol, I could see 9 hours but a dealer that does this all the time, 4-5 tops.
Thanks. And by the way, 9 hours is not including the exhaust removal
 
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