H-D Rider Planner/app and Use on TFT
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H-D Rider Planner/app and Use on TFT
Is there anyone out there that isn't having an issue using the Pan America's TFT as the primary GPS, while paired with a cellphone in your pocket?
I love my 2020 Road Glide Special, and the GPS that comes in the Boom Box. My handle bars are clear of GPS units, cell phones, etc. I've been using Harley's Ride Planner app to wirelessly transfer routes to the Boom Box flawlessly for the last couple years, while fellow riders in my HOG chapter are still passing around thumb drives. I design my rides either with the route planner itself, or import the gpx files to the H-D app from other programs. There was a learning curve but I think the H-D app works fine.
Now I am considering adding a Pan America Special to my garage (bike #2) and am excited about it being 300+ lbs lighter. I want to use the TFT as my GPS. I see on YouTube that so many folks hate the TFT/Harley app interface. I understand that the TFT is using the GPS capability of the cell phone and does not have a internal GPS like my Road Glide. From my BMW experience, I understand that if I download the maps of the states I am traveling in, having a cell connection is not a factor since the maps are already on the phone (they don't need to be downloaded via cell signal while you are riding), and the GPS signal is coming directly to the phone from overhead, not from a cell tower.
I have never seen a video where someone speaks well of the TFT/GPS/cell phone interface on the Pan America. I am hoping there is someone out there that shows the setup working well.
I love my 2020 Road Glide Special, and the GPS that comes in the Boom Box. My handle bars are clear of GPS units, cell phones, etc. I've been using Harley's Ride Planner app to wirelessly transfer routes to the Boom Box flawlessly for the last couple years, while fellow riders in my HOG chapter are still passing around thumb drives. I design my rides either with the route planner itself, or import the gpx files to the H-D app from other programs. There was a learning curve but I think the H-D app works fine.
Now I am considering adding a Pan America Special to my garage (bike #2) and am excited about it being 300+ lbs lighter. I want to use the TFT as my GPS. I see on YouTube that so many folks hate the TFT/Harley app interface. I understand that the TFT is using the GPS capability of the cell phone and does not have a internal GPS like my Road Glide. From my BMW experience, I understand that if I download the maps of the states I am traveling in, having a cell connection is not a factor since the maps are already on the phone (they don't need to be downloaded via cell signal while you are riding), and the GPS signal is coming directly to the phone from overhead, not from a cell tower.
I have never seen a video where someone speaks well of the TFT/GPS/cell phone interface on the Pan America. I am hoping there is someone out there that shows the setup working well.
Last edited by 08518 biker; Jan 5, 2024 at 03:10 PM.
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My experience with the Pan America TFT/phone combination is that it works 90% of the time. I ended up supplementing with a Garmin XT2 for the 10% of the times it doesn't work. I'll throw out, when the Pan America system works, I prefer it over using the Garmin.
The 10% of not working for me is being unable to start a new route without a cell signal. This applies to finding a destination and routing to it or starting a route that I've already created. This is what specifically caused me to go with a dedicated GPS unit. When I'm leading a group ride and am suddenly 'lost', it doesn't feel good. I don't really mind wandering when I'm by myself, but I do get nervous just wandering if I'm leading a group of folks.
The 10% of not working for me is being unable to start a new route without a cell signal. This applies to finding a destination and routing to it or starting a route that I've already created. This is what specifically caused me to go with a dedicated GPS unit. When I'm leading a group ride and am suddenly 'lost', it doesn't feel good. I don't really mind wandering when I'm by myself, but I do get nervous just wandering if I'm leading a group of folks.
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I have RTFM page by page, the ride create is lacking. while it works, it's fine, but deviate a smidgen and the ****er won't keep going, just keeps sending your back to the point you missed- unless you stop, open it up and delete the missed waypoint. too much BS to worry about.
If I were planning a real ride with sketchy service, Id drop $ for a Garmin and be done but the apple, off-line google Maps or the REVER app gets the job done so far. And I like being able to just tell Siri where I want to go and have a map and route pulled up without having to tap a single thing.
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That is such a BS statement I dont know where to start. Single worst thing about my PAS is nav. Zumo XT/XT2 solves the issue fortunately
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I don't use NAV on my bike or in my car. I know how to read a map and follow road signs. I may open my phone periodically to get an idea of where I am, then proceed accordingly. YMMV.
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Every time they update the APP or bikes software I try to use the APP and PAS Nav 3 or 4 times, then back to the Zumo.