Originally Posted by foxtrapper

Doesn't really affect my consideration.
A slight concern over a new facility taking on a new product, as bugs and mistakes seem to invariably happen when this takes place.
A twinge of regret at loss of domestic production.
A bit of relief that this gets away from the current facility and it's manufacturing or assembly problems.

Originally Posted by Powermankw

Doesn't effect my decision in the least because every other bike in the market is all imported. And all of them do the same thing to various degrees. The fact HD is an American company remains a positive factor to me giving my money to.

Originally Posted by FatBob2018

Not gonna be a popular opinion, but I think the ST is a swing and a miss. I think they identified the right market, a proper street tourer with a rip-roaring engine, but for a number of reasons this particular version of the Pan America ST is not the bike I wish it was. Reason #1 is like mikefmoto said, chain final drive instead of belt or shaft. This bike's obvious competition is the BMW R1300RT/R1250RT, and some would argue the Gold Wing; those are big-mile bikes and none of those bikes ues a chain because chain maintenance sucks; a shaft or a belt are maintenance free. Chains are pretty much required for an off-road bike like the original Pan America, but for a strictly on-road bike they really should have gone with a belt, just like every Harley Grand American Touring bike and Cruiser touring bikes and all the trikes have.

Second, it's pretty much the same bike as the existing Pan America. So what's the point? And what I mean by that is, look at the BMW GS vs the RT, the RT has totally different bodywork, different fairing, different bags, everything designed to make for a better more comfortable on-road-only long distance touring bike. The Pan Am doesn't. It's basically just a regular Pan Am with smaller wheels and street tires (which will make it a better sport bike) but no improvement to wind protection (which would have made it better as a touring bike). In fact, the ST has a smaller/shorter windscreen than the regular PA. If I was choosing between them, as a tourer or sport tourer I'd buy the regular Pan America, even for just road touring, just because it's capable of things the ST isn't. If I was trying to buy a Bronx or sport bike, then the ST is the closest match to that that Harley has.

So good on them for recognizing the desire for a lighter weight street tourer, but I think this is just more of a parts-swap bike rather than what I really wish they would have produced, which would be a 475lb, 975cc, 28-inch seat, full fairing, belt-drive sport tourer. Something more like the Triumph Tiger 900 GT, but with wind protection more like the BMW RT. I'm picturing something more like their huge hit Low Rider ST, but a Rev Max based bike that's 225 pounds less weight while still having the same HP as the LRST. That's what I was hoping they would produce. I think it would be an out of the park home run for Harley as it'd probably be much more appealing to new riders/new to the brand, and I bet a whole lot of aging riders would be very very interested in a Harley touring bike that weighed 500 pounds instead of the >900 lbs of the Ultra. I may be nuts, but I think people would line up around the block for something like that. I think the existing Pan America ST might increase overall Pan Am sales by maybe 10%, but the 975ST (as I'll call it) would probably increase Pan Am sales by 1,000%.

EDIT: actually, maybe the Pan Am is the wrong bike to start from; maybe they should make what I'm talking about as a "Nightster ST"; just add a fairing and some bags like they did to the Low Rider (and a Sundowner) and you're pretty much there. It's even belt drive already, and they already offer a Sundowner and some detachable bags (a little small at about 20L each but they look good). That bike might be pretty interesting. And if they made the fairing with some bodywork, they could cover up a lot of the left side of the engine that everyone complains about... I wish it had the 110hp of the Bronx, but 91 is not a slouch. I wonder if Klockwerx would make a Nightster S bracket for the Wedge fairing?

Dang, I had no interest in the Nightster at all, and now I kinda got the itch to built a Nightster ST...

Originally Posted by El_Capitan82

To my knowledge, the Pan Americas are still being made and imported from Thailand since 2025. The last American made PanAm was 2024, before the ST came out. All markets outside of the US always received the Thailand made PanAm since the launch.