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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 01:20 PM
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Still in the process of working on my 65 pan. There is a lot to stuff that needs work but one thing has come up. I need to replace the inner primary bearing. It's a 1 x 2 x 0.47" bearing with seal on one side.. Is it OK to simply use a 1 x 2 x 0.5 sealed bearing in it's place?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 01:40 PM
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Still in the process of working on my 65 pan. There is a lot to stuff that needs work but one thing has come up. I need to replace the inner primary bearing. It's a 1 x 2 x 0.47" bearing with seal on one side.. Is it OK to simply use a 1 x 2 x 0.5 sealed bearing in its place?
Sorry if I don't understand from this description, but which bearing, exactly, are you talking about?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 01:49 PM
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If it's the mainshaft bearing in the tranny, I think you want it exposed to gear oil for durability. Check out this video, which is what I used to guide my own rebuild. Kaiser shows the bearing R&R, and I'm almost positive I remember him discussing use of a sealed bearing:

rebuilding a 4-speed tranny
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 05:06 PM
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Your bike don't have it.. 65 has an aluminum inner primary and a support bearing. First year. Shovels - on have them


 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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As a semi dry OEM system we found iso the primary gives it way more life as it have a live 8 oz of active oil in the unit all the time

I have used a sealed bearing using plastic shields and then packing the bearing with aircraft landing wheel grease if i ont have the two car garage green grease if using the OEM set up
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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I've used the wider readily available bearing without issue.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2023 | 06:00 PM
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You can pop one of the seals out if you want to stay OEM other wise I've run the dual seal bearing for year in them.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2023 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
As a semi dry OEM system we found iso the primary gives it way more life as it have a live 8 oz of active oil in the unit all the time

I have used a sealed bearing using plastic shields and then packing the bearing with aircraft landing wheel grease if i ont have the two car garage green grease if using the OEM set up
So John, You prefer separating (iso - isolating?) the primary from the motor? To me, it seems like a good idea. 2 less hoses to leak. Less chance of the primary getting flooded with oil. No clutch crap getting into the motor oil.
 
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I believe the primaries are mostly isolated by now for those reasons, just like a....wait for it......TWINKIE!

Use the primary chain oiler tube as your vent to connect a hose.
 
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I believe the primaries are mostly isolated by now for those reasons, just like a....wait for it......TWINKIE!

Use the primary chain oiler tube as your vent to connect a hose.
No...no...no. Not now, not ever. Took my 65 to 118K before putting her to bed for a rest. As long as you keep up with servicing on the suggested schedule, the stock system works great.

And the only modification I made to my primary is that now it is vented. The 1965 - e1966 aluminum primary units for Big twin medals was non-vented which led to leaks. HD fixed the problems with a vented primary and sold a retro-fit kit for the early models
 

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