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I have an 07 Softail and I've noticed that the last couple of times that I had the bike out
I'm getting a cluncking noise after shifting the bike, also I can be going down the
road, let off on the gas and then hit the throttle and I'll get a clunck, not all the time, but
I have notice it more often, it seems if I keep the RPM's up higher it's not as noticeable.
It also seems to clunck more now going into 1st gear and all the other gears more now than
it did before.
Anybody have any idea's
Thanks for any input.
Probably the lash in the drivetrain..but check your clutch adjustment and your drive belt tension. If you are not running gear oil in your trans try some as it will quiet down some of the clunking. I run Redline Shockproof Heavy gear oil in mine. You can find it at www.myoilshop.com or get some Mobil1 75w140 gear oil from autozone as it will work well too.
If you run gear oil & your clutch & drive belt are adjusted correctly you may want to check your primary chain tension. But you should have an auto chain tensioner on your bike. Also, have you gone over the bike with a wrench and checked your engine mounts and other critical fasteners? Check your jiffy stand as well and make sure when it is in the up position it is not hitting the frame but resting on the rubber stop.
thanks for the reply, should I adjust the clutch at the clutch pack or just the cable, probably both would be the best.
Will check mounts and kick stand.
I am running Amsoil 75W110 in the trans.
If it's the lash in the drive train, how do you correct that?
thanks for the reply, should I adjust the clutch at the clutch pack or just the cable, probably both would be the best.
Will check mounts and kick stand.
I am running Amsoil 75W110 in the trans.
If it's the lash in the drive train, how do you correct that?
Thanks
Adjust the clutch at both. While you have the derby off take a flashlight & long thin screwdriver and see if your primary chain will move up and down much. With the auto tensioner it should be pretty firm. Check your belt tension with a rider about your size sitting on the bike and then again with no rider. If your primary chain is tight, clutch adjusted, belt tight, motor mounts tight then it probably is just lash in the system. It's a Harley and they all have some lash. One other question...are you sure it is not the steering head clunking when you let off the throttle? Does it ever clunk when you go over a bump at 20-40mph? (I still think you have something loose.)
If all of this fails then do a critical fastener check: Front axle, rear pulley, fork pinch bolts, jiffy, all engine mounts, steering head, brake calipers. exhaust brackets, etc.
If that fails then you may want to pull the primary cover and check the compensator & primary chain. There are some issues with the 07 compensators but I don't know if the B motor is one of them. Get in touch with a member RBABOS here and he might know if your clunk is the compensator. If it is then you want to replace it with the Screaming Eagle compensator which is an upgraded unit. But Ron Babos will know.
thanks for all the information, I will start checking things out tonight, I hope it's
just a clutch adjustment or somethinf simple.
I'll ley you know
thanks
thanks for all the information, I will start checking things out tonight, I hope it's
just a clutch adjustment or somethinf simple.
I'll ley you know
thanks
The SE compensator issue is not the end of the world for your bike so don't sweat it. If you are still in warranty then get all this done right away as you may get your dealer to do an SE comp for just the difference in part price and charge all the labor to the MoCo.
That's perfectly normal lash and they all do it. Your shifting is sloppy in the fact you let it decel in the shifted gear and then add throttle. The result is a clack sound as the lash is taken up. Stop shifting like an old man and it will go away.
Ron
Guys, thanks for all the information, KB I will look into that SE compensator down the road.
but maybe Ron has a good point I am getting up there in years and maybe my shifting could be off a notch or two.
I adjusted the clutch tonight, but did not get a chance to take it out.
will do that tomorrow and I'll also keep an eye on my shifting, it's hell getting old.
thanks again guys, in a way I hope it is my shifting at least that way I know it's not the bike.
Guys, thanks for all the information, KB I will look into that SE compensator down the road.
but maybe Ron has a good point I am getting up there in years and maybe my shifting could be off a notch or two.
I adjusted the clutch tonight, but did not get a chance to take it out.
will do that tomorrow and I'll also keep an eye on my shifting, it's hell getting old.
thanks again guys, in a way I hope it is my shifting at least that way I know it's not the bike.
I hear ya with the getting old part. I found that when doing the slow motion, not in any hurry motions of going through the shifts the bike actually coasts and on the edge of decel load. As throttle is applied the lash is taken up with a clack sound. In some cases the engine pulses will even do this, and then you have the dreaded term of tranny clatter where a rebound causes slack and the engine pulse takes it up. Most common in fifth gear with the right load condition. A compensator depending on how well it works can make this worse or even virtually eliminate clatter on a softail. If you really want to feel how discusting the drive train is coast in first gear at about 5-10 mph on level ground. Decel slightly and accel slightly. It will have that annouying clack each time. Now if you really want to be pissed, lightly hold the clutch lever with your fingers and feel it go in and out at the same time you decel and accel. These traits are built in, so you have to live with them.
Ron
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