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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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Following the service manual, I removed the 5 bolts from the shifter cover on my '79 FXS (the transmission is up on the workbench - not in the bike). Even with the bolts out, the cover won't easily come off. I have tapped on it... tried a little prying, but don't want to get too heavy-handed with it. It could just be sealed on there or cemented on with gasket sealer...

Any previous experience pulling these off? I have re-read the service manual and it doesn't suggest any other connections. Any advice is appreciated before going the "get a bigger hammer" route!
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 08:17 PM
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Might try a gasket scraper. Tap it in to the gasket mating surface VERY GENTLY! Work it around the perimeter of the cover slowly. Previous owner may have used Gorilla Snot to glue it together to stop a leak.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2017 | 05:57 AM
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I got the cover off... just took a little time with a thin blade and a brass hammer. Not sure if the old gasket was glued in or just fossilized, but everything came apart with no damage to the mating surfaces.

The bonus was after spending time working on it, I noticed the half-moon key on the main shaft had been sheared off, and a little punch work removed the rest of the key from the keyway. I thought the shaft had been damaged, but it was just the clutch hub that had spun on the shaft. Getting the 2 cents forth of keyway out of there saves me a new main shaft!



Remainder of the shears-off key, removed.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2017 | 10:42 AM
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FYI, that key is not sheared, it is made that way. the half moon sits in the slit and the portion above it aligns with your clutch hub assembly. If you look at the assembly you will see a sqauare notch in the part that goes on the shaft. That key keeps the assembly from free spining.

And if you haven't invested yet, a factory shop and parts manual would be beneficial.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 05:45 AM
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Thanks for the note, Panz4ever - I have the service manual and parts book. You are correct - they are handy to have. The key was sheared - I am including a photo of the hub here - you can see the other half of the key in the hub slot. The hub was not badly spun on the main shaft, but the key was definitely split. I have removed and replaced a lot of keyed shaft/gear systems - can't say I have seen this very many times!



Back of clutch hub, showing top half of sheared key still in place.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2017 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Frijoles
Thanks for the note, Panz4ever - I have the service manual and parts book. You are correct - they are handy to have. The key was sheared - I am including a photo of the hub here - you can see the other half of the key in the hub slot. The hub was not badly spun on the main shaft, but the key was definitely split. I have removed and replaced a lot of keyed shaft/gear systems - can't say I have seen this very many times!



Back of clutch hub, showing top half of sheared key still in place.
I'm betting, too many hole shots..... Check the run out on the shaft....
 
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Damn, you would have to beat those tranny gears pretty hard to do that to a "key". You say you have the tranny on the bench/ Howz the gears look?
 
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Originally Posted by panz4ever
Damn, you would have to beat those tranny gears pretty hard to do that to a "key". You say you have the tranny on the bench/ Howz the gears look?
I looked through all the gears tonight - they seem fine. No chips, cracks, or anything other than normal wear. I agree it seems the clutch must have been hammered to make this happen, but possibly they key was not seated correctly. No matter... the entire clutch is being replaced. And yes - I will check the runout, shaft tolerances, etc. before reassembling everything.


 

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