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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 06:35 PM
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Need to replace the inner primary bearing that supports the mainshaft on a buddy's 76 FLH. It is part #9037 or #9040. Only difference is that one is shielded the other is not.

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The one on the left is a used Fafnir. No numbers on it other than the patent #. Timken/Fafnir bearings are still USA made.

Looked at PEER and KSK bearings and they are China made. Hoping to avoid China made.

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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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I believe the difference is the ball count the bearings are the same - I forget the rubber verses the tin shields nomenclature but its tagged on the end - the china bearings last 6 to 12 months no matter what grease you use

we get the usa units and remove the rubber shield wash it out and re pack it with aircraft landing wheel grease

we buy out dated aircraft grease for pennies on the dollar - some how they think the grease in a sealed container goes bad after 5 years

but in a pinch we have also used the mobil 1 syn Red wheel bearing grease - found it to be almost the same
 
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Old Jul 26, 2019 | 09:16 PM
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John gotta name & part number for the USA units?

Did find the Japanese equivalent that is still in production SMT R16.

Oh...and that is exactly what has happened to my buddy's 76. He used the China s$it and it gave up the ghost after less than a year.


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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 01:48 PM
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japan and the rest of the bearing hi end manufactures' are in standard with one another - if its reasonable grab it - but I will look and send a picture of the numbers
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 02:21 PM
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SKF has that bearing also, think that's the last few I used. Couple of german manufactures too but can't remember the names offhand, it's a common size I've found in the surplus section on ebay occasionally for less than the chicom junk.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 02:23 PM
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I bought a stack of bearings from a guy on eBay.
I don't remember the sellers name.
They are Japanese, KSK, R16RS.
They have plastic shields on each side.
As per John's instructions, I remove the side shields, clean out the original grease and pack them myself with Mobil 1...until I run out of Mobil 1.
Then I have a couple tubes of Green Grease to use.
And yes, I reinstall the shields after packing them.
 

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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 02:41 PM
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the oem number is 9040 - several bearing companys and numbers are used

it says in my book we developed - 1965 to 1984 bearing numbers

KSK-R16RS
f A g -EE9 2RS - or - MRCR16ZZ < this one is expensive But is a HI Speed bearing

china junk -- PEER 9R16
 
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Old Jul 27, 2019 | 02:58 PM
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Thanks gents..give me what I need to go forward
 
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Anyone tried the silicon nitride ball bearings as opposed to metal ball bearings?
I see these bearings offered but know nothing about their ability to handle the loads generated in the Harley inner primary/mainshaft application.
I also don't know if they come shielded.
 

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its a 5000 mile bearing as a good one repack and do over then replace as its cheap and lots of ;labor to get to it
 
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