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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 01:39 AM
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First I found problems with the compensator, esp.on the output shaft tha was real hard to take off.

I had to modify a bearing splitter clamp with a impact driver to get it off
The clutch hub was a bear too, I spent a an afternoon removing the rubber boots from the totally enclosed final drive chain.Removing all the inner primary bolts I proceeded to remove the inner primary and this happen.

That bearing is supposed to stay with the inner primary. There is no pressing a new bearing in at this time it is all wallard out and repair of this inner may be possible? Or use some high heat adhesive? This is a one or two year production on this final drive , everything is belts after this.I was fortunate to find another inner primary, but it had been modified for exposed chain with a larger drive sprocket. So that is the way I will go for now,until I get the original primary repaired.

My original with bad bearing carrier


Modified one, they cut the corner off the lower and the boot can no longer be attached.
My woes have not ended yet, the drive sprocket nut was loose and the sprocket wobbles “F” me. When you put it on reverse it is tight I think the trans mission output spline will be ok for a while , need comment on this, I will try to post a couple of vids on this primary

Can the spline gear be replaced? 4 bolts and pull the swing arm axel and the transmission should fall out?


I understand replacing worn parts but this makes me angry so unnessary

So now I will replace the chain and both sprockets obviously. Does anybody know how to get this off?

I do not have a 1983 flht shop manual and nothing I have speaks of the rear chain and sprocket cover,

So far I have about $5600.00 into this bike and I am too far into it to stop now, you guys where no kidding that you have to wrench if your going to own and ride these bikes. Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I am new to doing my own work on the Shovelhead , I used to think all motorcycles where about the same, not so! Every thing about this bike is foreign to me even the wrench sizes.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gappy
First I found problems with the compensator, esp.on the output shaft tha was real hard to take off.

I had to modify a bearing splitter clamp with a impact driver to get it off
The clutch hub was a bear too, I spent a an afternoon removing the rubber boots from the totally enclosed final drive chain.Removing all the inner primary bolts I proceeded to remove the inner primary and this happen.

That bearing is supposed to stay with the inner primary. There is no pressing a new bearing in at this time it is all wallard out and repair of this inner may be possible? Or use some high heat adhesive? This is a one or two year production on this final drive , everything is belts after this.I was fortunate to find another inner primary, but it had been modified for exposed chain with a larger drive sprocket. So that is the way I will go for now,until I get the original primary repaired.

My original with bad bearing carrier


Modified one, they cut the corner off the lower and the boot can no longer be attached.
My woes have not ended yet, the drive sprocket nut was loose and the sprocket wobbles “F” me. When you put it on reverse it is tight I think the trans mission output spline will be ok for a while , need comment on this, I will try to post a couple of vids on this primary

Can the spline gear be replaced? 4 bolts and pull the swing arm axel and the transmission should fall out?


I understand replacing worn parts but this makes me angry so unnessary

So now I will replace the chain and both sprockets obviously. Does anybody know how to get this off?

I do not have a 1983 flht shop manual and nothing I have speaks of the rear chain and sprocket cover,

So far I have about $5600.00 into this bike and I am too far into it to stop now, you guys where no kidding that you have to wrench if your going to own and ride these bikes. Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I am new to doing my own work on the Shovelhead , I used to think all motorcycles where about the same, not so! Every thing about this bike is foreign to me even the wrench sizes.

the sprocket should have had a washer between it and the hi gear

very common bearing to come loose

sharpen a punch a tick the wall of the primary so the locktite it thick in spots and it will make it a tight fit going back together

we just use red locktite in the paste form on both but make it spotless clean so it stays then yamma bond 4 painted around the out side of the bearing and the primary making it a little thick for insurance — leaking

but use a new usa bearing the china bearing is total garbage and will not if - will go bad in a year
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gappy
First I found problems with the compensator, esp.on the output shaft tha was real hard to take off.

I had to modify a bearing splitter clamp with a impact driver to get it off
The clutch hub was a bear too, I spent a an afternoon removing the rubber boots from the totally enclosed final drive chain.Removing all the inner primary bolts I proceeded to remove the inner primary and this happen.

That bearing is supposed to stay with the inner primary. There is no pressing a new bearing in at this time it is all wallard out and repair of this inner may be possible? Or use some high heat adhesive? This is a one or two year production on this final drive , everything is belts after this.I was fortunate to find another inner primary, but it had been modified for exposed chain with a larger drive sprocket. So that is the way I will go for now,until I get the original primary repaired.

My original with bad bearing carrier


Modified one, they cut the corner off the lower and the boot can no longer be attached.
My woes have not ended yet, the drive sprocket nut was loose and the sprocket wobbles “F” me. When you put it on reverse it is tight I think the trans mission output spline will be ok for a while , need comment on this, I will try to post a couple of vids on this primary

Can the spline gear be replaced? 4 bolts and pull the swing arm axel and the transmission should fall out?


I understand replacing worn parts but this makes me angry so unnessary

So now I will replace the chain and both sprockets obviously. Does anybody know how to get this off?

I do not have a 1983 flht shop manual and nothing I have speaks of the rear chain and sprocket cover,

So far I have about $5600.00 into this bike and I am too far into it to stop now, you guys where no kidding that you have to wrench if your going to own and ride these bikes. Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I am new to doing my own work on the Shovelhead , I used to think all motorcycles where about the same, not so! Every thing about this bike is foreign to me even the wrench sizes.

the sprocket should have had a washer between it and the hi gear

very common bearing to come loose

sharpen a punch a tick the wall of the primary so the locktite it thick in spots and it will make it a tight fit going back together

we just use red locktite in the paste form on both but make it spotless clean so it stays then yamma bond 4 painted around the out side of the bearing and the primary making it a little thick for insurance — leaking

but use a new usa bearing the china bearing is total garbage and will not if - will go bad in a year

 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 07:17 PM
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Thanks John, perhaps I will use your way of securing the bearing and put it all back together. I would really like to keep it all stock and even though the enclosed chain system is a real big pain in the butt, it seems to work well.
 
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glue it as well
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 08:13 PM
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Working on a 82 FLT now, sure glad the enclosed chain garbage was already removed after seeing this.

Looks like it has a lowering bracket on the rear shock mount, mine has the shock bolted inside the top bracket on the swing arm
 
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I may just be the only guy that Loves the enclosed chain...Really a neat idea and Execution in so Many Ways!!!
Hell.... who said it??? If it was Easy, little Girls would do it!!!
 
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Not to hijack the thread but my main shaft looks similar to the first picture. I assumed the was from a loose compensator nut sometime in the last 45 years but not sure . I don't see any corresponding wear on the shaft extension or any other parts under the nut. Is this anything I should be really worried about?
 
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Originally Posted by tld6008
Not to hijack the thread but my main shaft looks similar to the first picture. I assumed the was from a loose compensator nut sometime in the last 45 years but not sure . I don't see any corresponding wear on the shaft extension or any other parts under the nut. Is this anything I should be really worried about?
I generally just Chalk such things up to "the PO used Chiwanese parts"
If Known O.E....Welp...had a Hard Life
 
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