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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:35 AM
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Well I did all the adjustments that I could find on several forums and nothing made it better. I did notice a spring that is on one of the adjuster studs is broken. So I will need to pull all the stuff off and replace it at minimum. I ordered one of the Ram Jet things from J &P parts so I will have that. What other items besides the springs and primary gasket will be needed for sure?
I will likely order the red clutch discs also. Can the outer primary be removed with the crossover exhaust in place?
Have you pulled the clutch plates??? Clean them good, dry, then scrub on clean concrete floor???
Or is New pre-ordained?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:46 AM
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Not pre-ordained. I will try to get them out today I want to look at them first as they are supposed to be new. I'm sure they need a clean-up due to all the oil I found in the primary.
I suppose I should buy a complete set of new springs, are there any specific recommendations on those?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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John Lee...Sorry I can't help you
 

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
the pipe is bolted to the outer primary
Great
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 09:41 AM
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Your setup looks just like my '48 Pans setup did, and here's how I adjusted the clutch on that. First loosen the clutch cable, I had a mousetrap so just made sure it wasn't holding anything tight. Then on the plate with the three nuts, I loosened them, and measured 31-32's from the back of the plate to the cover below the nuts. Then I adjusted the center screw of the clutch pack. Gently all the way in, then backed it out 1/2 -3/4 of a turn. The less you back it out, the closer to the bar the clutch will engage. After I was satisfied with that, I adjusted the cable back to the point it had about a nickels width between the lever and the bar. I would check the mouse trap operation to be sure it worked and wasn't too tight to pull in. I will say my friend had the same problem that we could not adjust out, and it turned out he had a warped clutch plate. The hotter the clutch got the harder it got to shift, and you had to stand on the brakes at a stop to keep it from taking off with the clutch pulled it. I hope this is of some use to you.,,,
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 10:10 AM
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The hotter the clutch got the harder it got to shift, and you had to stand on the brakes at a stop to keep it from taking off with the clutch pulled it.
I did exactly as you described to no avail but your last sentence is exactly what mine is doing. Since I see a broken spring I will be taking it all apart hopefully today and see what is what.
 

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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by big cahuna
Your setup looks just like my '48 Pans setup did, and here's how I adjusted the clutch on that. First loosen the clutch cable, I had a mousetrap so just made sure it wasn't holding anything tight. Then on the plate with the three nuts, I loosened them, and measured 31-32's from the back of the plate to the cover below the nuts. Then I adjusted the center screw of the clutch pack. Gently all the way in, then backed it out 1/2 -3/4 of a turn. The less you back it out, the closer to the bar the clutch will engage. After I was satisfied with that, I adjusted the cable back to the point it had about a nickels width between the lever and the bar. I would check the mouse trap operation to be sure it worked and wasn't too tight to pull in. I will say my friend had the same problem that we could not adjust out, and it turned out he had a warped clutch plate. The hotter the clutch got the harder it got to shift, and you had to stand on the brakes at a stop to keep it from taking off with the clutch pulled it. I hope this is of some use to you.,,,
Prolly not a Friction... most likely the pressure plate, or perhaps a steel or even 2... Steels... dead flat steels, are vitally important
BTW the friction attached to the Clutch Hub, is Important also...some use a free floating disk there.. I have not seen that as a necessity, but, plan to try it just the same..
 

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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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What is the best way to get the outer primary off? Mine may have been sealed with JB weld or something WTF!! I tried to cut through the gasket with a razor but got pissed off at that or is that the trick I don't see any good place to pry from.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 05:37 PM
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Well I answered my own question... when the cover came off there were parts of 2 clutch springs in the bottom


When I got the pressure plate off and apart only 2 springs were intact but were distorted


I cleaned the friction discs in gas they look like they have been barely used seem to be a green color. I rubbed a couple them down on a flat concrete surface but they really didn't change the appearance much at all The steel plates also looked fairly new they do not have ball and springs on edge. I check for flatness on a mirror and 2 of them had a single area where I could get a .006 feeler blade under it. That doesn't seem like a problem to me, or is it?. Looking at the pressure plate above, I found one of the gussets has the 2 spot welds detached where it meets the center section, if that's a big deal I can weld it but it looks like it may never have been attached


The picture above shows there are no safety wires on the 2 bolts. Is that something I need to correct?
Also that primary chain oiler pipe, I was thinking of drilling through it to vent the primary space as everything is plugged, the issue is to vent or no as it is set up as sealed.
So are there any opinions what would have caused these springs to break, cheap chinese stuff or some other issue? Any recommendations for a replacement set?
I wish I would have known the crossover pipe separated behind the engine before I took the entire exhaust system loose


I also noticed on that the shaft from the starter (that has the thrust washer on it) there is a bushing that had a loose left hand nut on it. My manual call that a pinion shaft nut but doesn't show a separate nut

I have the RamJett thing coming so I need to order springs. What else do I need to take off to get the RamJett on?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 06:02 PM
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you need to undo the battery ground - if not you effen with the starter will get it to engage and they love fingers - i prefer mine still on my hand
 
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