Some starter advice needed.
I originally thought, bendix. took off primary, sure enough the bendix was ground up. I replaced it, and I still had the same issue. Rather than grind up another bendix, I pulled the starter.
I am the original owner of this old shovel, and let me tell you, it seems like I learn something new about it everyday. Just when you think you have a shovel figured out, something else weird happens.
Well, in this case, the little gear on the end of the starter motor is totally stripped, and the starter gear is a bit rounded on the inside gear. I'm not sure if I should just try to pull the starter gear and replace it, or just get a new starter. This chrome one is about 20 years old.
I"m not even sure if I can find a replacement starter gear.
Or you can get a whole new starter for $150. From J&P. Cycles. Haven't seen just the gear offered.
J&P Part #: 803-650
Mfr Part #: PH125-HD09-B
I found used armatures on Fleabay for $15.00 each, but that begs the question.......how good are they?
Guess I have to bite the bullet and buy a new one.
any feedback on those supposedly "high torque" small starters?
The starter on my Shovel is 43 years old, and original. Other than cleaning up that copper washer, I haven't needed to service it.
It helps if you keep the bike tuning dialed in...that way, it doesn't turn over much before it starts.
Looking at how chewed-up your's is, do you have the solenoid spacer in there? It's vital for alignment.
My old girl is 46 years old, I'm the original owner. Bike has an andrews B grind that has been on there since the early 80's, a morris mag, and S and S super B with a super bowl.
I just had the valves redone and it has new standard compression pistons and rings.
So a mild custom with nothing spectacular.
I can't imagine why that gear spun off so badly. I checked the timing, and it all looks good.
BTW; Concerning timing... Too much advance, or a worn mechanical advance mechanism, stuck on Full Advance, can/will cause engine to "kick-back" on starter...or Kicker too....
Last edited by Racepres; Nov 9, 2022 at 12:01 PM.
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At any rate, being a cheap old fart, I decided to buy a used Hitachi Armature off of flea bay. Mostly because IF something else is causing this issue, I'm not out a lot of money.
This is the one I bought. Should be delivered Monday or Tuesday
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232360211982
this is my broken one.













