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Old 02-17-2023, 02:48 PM
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why do some change a pan to a pan -shovel. why not just get a generator shovel. to me a pan should stay as a pan
 
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On combination I like is a pan/shovel with a stator from a cone engine with ignition running from generator drive.
 
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well the pan/shovel is a sexy looking machine hard to beat its look, plus i think you pick up more horsepower.in the switch over, but i prefer a pan/shovel over a pan any day.
 
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And you do realize shovels before 70 have the kidney bottom being all shovel?
 
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Back when it was popular guys did it to get a better engine with the all upper end weakness the pans had like, intakes, oiling systems, rocker arm noise ect. It was a thing before the aftermarket became what it is and we were all broke living check to check by our wits and swap meets most times.

Isn't wasn't something you'd do if you had money to just get another bike.

This boutique **** today is a clown show compared.
 
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imo the panhead is the best lookin bt
some probs mentioned above
shovel heads breathe much better
pan intake was pretty much a t fitting
 

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Back then the vin was on the engine not the frame (1969 down), doing an engine swap to a gen shovel would require a title to go with it. The shovel heads made more power so people upgraded the pan engine they had.
 
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In the after market today the panheads heads come with the shovel intakes < the main reason they made more power - a free flowing intake compared to the shrouded intakes and same size valves intake and exhaust 1 .750 compared to almost 2 inch shovel intakes was a throw back to the 20s < pan motors only used

2 - the early brass ring intakes were always like having a rose bush in your under wear - and the slow dribble of oil through the jugs was never a technological advantage to anyone who actually thinks - and they fixed it if you had asked them in 1963
 
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agreed on a/m pan heads
woulda liked a set of std pan heads on that bike, shovel type exhaust too, no clamps
it was reg'd in 76, built before that, dont think they [heads] were available back then
 
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agreed on a/m pan heads
woulda liked a set of std pan heads on that bike, shovel type exhaust too, no clamps
it was reg'd in 76, built before that, dont think they [heads] were available back then
STD made them in the 70's but they were iffy quality wise, crude castings and machine work wasn't consistent.
 
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