4 Speed Question
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4 Speed Question
This may have been addressed before, I don’t know. If so, I apologize. I have a basket case I recently picked up. It’s an 81 FXWG. It has the stock rotary 4 speed with hydraulic clutch setup. The case on this tranny has been chaffed through by the chain. I’m turning this bike into a bobber and want to put a foot clutch/hand shift setup. Ratchet tops are a more desired tranny for this. That being said, can I pull the gear set out of the cow pie case and put it in a ratchet top case. I’ve found aftermarket cases with new ratchet top assemblies. Is this doable? I would also like to keep the hydraulic clutch cover and set up a hydraulic foot clutch. Has anyone seen/done this?
Thanks for any advice you may have!
Thanks for any advice you may have!
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From: la la land jerzey
No speedo in a cow pie
hi gear is different as the cow pie has a caged bearing not loose rollers like a ratchet - cage is pressed into the case
counter shaft is different because it also has caged bearings and the shaft side bushings are a different size for open roller and closed cage
tank shift is only going to be a front tank mounted jockey type shifting as in rocketing it one way or the other up shift down shift
nothing to gain — making an arm off the turtle top so you can select is all you can do and keep what you have
hi gear is different as the cow pie has a caged bearing not loose rollers like a ratchet - cage is pressed into the case
counter shaft is different because it also has caged bearings and the shaft side bushings are a different size for open roller and closed cage
tank shift is only going to be a front tank mounted jockey type shifting as in rocketing it one way or the other up shift down shift
nothing to gain — making an arm off the turtle top so you can select is all you can do and keep what you have
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No speedo in a cow pie
hi gear is different as the cow pie has a caged bearing not loose rollers like a ratchet - cage is pressed into the case
counter shaft is different because it also has caged bearings and the shaft side bushings are a different size for open roller and closed cage
tank shift is only going to be a front tank mounted jockey type shifting as in rocketing it one way or the other up shift down shift
nothing to gain — making an arm off the turtle top so you can select is all you can do and keep what you have
hi gear is different as the cow pie has a caged bearing not loose rollers like a ratchet - cage is pressed into the case
counter shaft is different because it also has caged bearings and the shaft side bushings are a different size for open roller and closed cage
tank shift is only going to be a front tank mounted jockey type shifting as in rocketing it one way or the other up shift down shift
nothing to gain — making an arm off the turtle top so you can select is all you can do and keep what you have
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From: East Texas
I’m really not concerned with a Speedo. Wasn’t planning on running one anyway. I just basically wanted to know if I could move the gear set from the cow pie to the ratchet and if it would work. I just don’t know if they’re compatible.
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From: la la land jerzey
‘ i have never seen a aftermarket with the press and not rollers my guess i dont buy from who sells them but he was talking re pop I just went with what i have bought 50 years on
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