2017 Milwaukee Eight dyno testing & information
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OK, that settles it. When my FM107 goes, I'm dropping in an FM 126.
F* yall.
F* yall.
For the guys whining about the peak #s, you really need to go back and look at Jamie's post # 107 (Jamie, did you wait for 107 to come up before posting?? )
Having a high peak # is always a good thing, but its even better when you can have "high" numbers when you want or need them. The new M8 is somewhat remarkable for a factory engine. Here's the comparison that really matters in the saddle taking the charts for the 4 stock engines:
2500 rpms
- 107 @ 95 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin Cool @ 80 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 80 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 80 ft-lbs
3500 rpms
- 107 @ 98 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin-cool 88 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 85 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 83 ft-lbs
4500 rpms
- 107 @ 94 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin Cool @ 85 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 80 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 78 ft-lbs
As stock bikes, the 107 will "smoke" any of the older stock bikes from a start and pull away from any of them on the highway when passing. That flat tabletop Tq curve is what you feel. And my guess is that once Jamie gets done tuning even the stock map you're going to be looking at an even greater performance difference with the 103 & 96 engines.
Add a strong 2:1 pipe, and larger TB and injectors and my guess is these new engines will be shocking all of us down the road.
) Having a high peak # is always a good thing, but its even better when you can have "high" numbers when you want or need them. The new M8 is somewhat remarkable for a factory engine. Here's the comparison that really matters in the saddle taking the charts for the 4 stock engines:
2500 rpms
- 107 @ 95 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin Cool @ 80 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 80 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 80 ft-lbs
3500 rpms
- 107 @ 98 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin-cool 88 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 85 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 83 ft-lbs
4500 rpms
- 107 @ 94 ft-lbs
- 103 Twin Cool @ 85 ft-lbs
- 103 @ 80 ft-lbs
- 96 @ 78 ft-lbs
As stock bikes, the 107 will "smoke" any of the older stock bikes from a start and pull away from any of them on the highway when passing. That flat tabletop Tq curve is what you feel. And my guess is that once Jamie gets done tuning even the stock map you're going to be looking at an even greater performance difference with the 103 & 96 engines.
Add a strong 2:1 pipe, and larger TB and injectors and my guess is these new engines will be shocking all of us down the road.
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No word on the 117" though.
If I am not mistaken, you will need a PV-2. The PV-2 is for canbus systems, 2014 and above, and the PV-1 is for pre-canbus.
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My plan is to start with a 114 and build it stronger than my 110 but I'm looking forward to starting with what looks like a pretty stout 114 base engine.
Last edited by Heatwave; Aug 31, 2016 at 04:46 PM.
Same 12mm nbO2 sensor as current models. Yes you can use a PV-1 on all 2017 applications, you will need the PV-2 data cable and a tune license. We have a 2017 CVO 114" bike lined up and we will move forward once we get thru our 107" testing & product development.
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The USA's Leader V-Twin EFI & Performance www.fuelmotousa.com
Contact 920-423-3309
Email jamie@fuelmotousa.com
PV-1 and PV-2 are actually the same base unit, the only difference is the cable and firmware. You can use a PV-1 on the 2017 bikes, just need to run the PV Update Client, get a PV-2 cable and a tune license.
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As stock bikes, the 107 will "smoke" any of the older stock bikes from a start and pull away from any of them on the highway when passing. That flat tabletop Tq curve is what you feel. And my guess is that once Jamie gets done tuning even the stock map you're going to be looking at an even greater performance difference with the 103 & 96 engines.
Add a strong 2:1 pipe, and larger TB and injectors and my guess is these new engines will be shocking all of us down the road.
Add a strong 2:1 pipe, and larger TB and injectors and my guess is these new engines will be shocking all of us down the road.
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We are now flashing the 2017 M8 ECM with Dynojet Power Vision. More to come, stay tuned...
Power Vision ECU Flash 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee Eight 8 107" - YouTube
Power Vision ECU Flash 2017 Harley-Davidson Milwaukee Eight 8 107" - YouTube
