The Dyno Room A special room dedicated for Dyno tuning products, troubleshooting and results. All Gearheads and Dyno Operators are welcome here as well as the guys that are new to tuning. Please see the special rules for this section before posting.

THUNDERMAX: Pathetic Fuel Economy - T-Max Experts HELP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 08:56 AM
  #61  
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,830
Likes: 7,968
From: poway
Default

Sounds good.
 
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2017 | 10:33 PM
  #62  
HoggyMtnBreakdown's Avatar
HoggyMtnBreakdown
Thread Starter
|
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,133
Likes: 125
From: Japan
Default

I have just two more questions for you, Max, then I'll leave you alone (if that doesn't lead to more questions - LOL):
1. Why did you advance the timing so much on your 103 in the the lower RPMs (under 2000)?
2. Why did you retard it more in the higher RPMs (over 3500)?
 
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2017 | 11:38 AM
  #63  
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,830
Likes: 7,968
From: poway
Default

Originally Posted by HoggyMtnBreakdown
I have just two more questions for you, Max, then I'll leave you alone (if that doesn't lead to more questions - LOL):
1. Why did you advance the timing so much on your 103 in the the lower RPMs (under 2000)?
2. Why did you retard it more in the higher RPMs (over 3500)?
Not sure what you are asking. Is this simply in reference to other maps?

Advancing the timing at partial throttle at lower RPMs helps a little with throttle response and exhaust popping. It also helps burn all the fuel that is available which helps with closed loop AFRs. One thing to remember is that cylinder pressure is low at partial throttle.. Low cylinder pressure takes longer for the fuel to burn.

In the upper RPM ranges partial throttle is pretty much the same as lower rpm but at wide open throttle it has to be less. The cylinder pressures are much higher. Fuel burns faster.. I've used a dyno on occasion and simply tune WOT timing to where it makes the most power.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 10:31 AM
  #64  
HoggyMtnBreakdown's Avatar
HoggyMtnBreakdown
Thread Starter
|
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,133
Likes: 125
From: Japan
Default

Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Not sure what you are asking. Is this simply in reference to other maps?

Advancing the timing at partial throttle at lower RPMs helps a little with throttle response and exhaust popping. It also helps burn all the fuel that is available which helps with closed loop AFRs. One thing to remember is that cylinder pressure is low at partial throttle.. Low cylinder pressure takes longer for the fuel to burn.

In the upper RPM ranges partial throttle is pretty much the same as lower rpm but at wide open throttle it has to be less. The cylinder pressures are much higher. Fuel burns faster.. I've used a dyno on occasion and simply tune WOT timing to where it makes the most power.
Doesn't matter. You answered my questions and gave me the info I was after. Thanks. Appreciate all the help, Max!
 
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2017 | 09:10 AM
  #65  
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,830
Likes: 7,968
From: poway
Default

Switch setting in smartlink 4 which is for the gen 2 system..


 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Gordon61
The Dyno Room
11
May 3, 2017 12:11 PM
dlporter
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
8
Mar 29, 2016 11:40 PM
msr082881
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
3
Feb 20, 2015 04:28 PM
Wildrat
Touring Models
3
Jun 13, 2009 11:31 PM
ezlife
Touring Models
3
Oct 9, 2007 10:12 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:59 AM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE