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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLorys
I'm not going to pretend that I know much about electronics - because I dont - but the way that it was explained to me was for low power connections (LEDs) you want to use less or no grease because the grease itself has a small level of electrical resistance and because LEDs are drawing less power than normal bulbs, sometimes the resistance can screw with the LEDs. Supposedly it isnt an issue with higher draw electronics because it overpowers whatever resistance there is. But then I was also told you can use it on the outside of the connection to keep moisture out...just try to keep it out of the connection itself.

Although, that theory kind of goes out the window when the BAL is LED also and they're saying to use the grease.
I could understand the theory of not using the grease on the internal connections to the LED itself. The LED parts are inside the signal housing with two wires coming out connected to a plug that is identical to the 1187 light-bulb plug. I am no electrician either but it would make sense to me the higher current draw is inside the hard wired LED light assembly not at the plug.

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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cbyway
I could understand the theory of not using the grease on the internal connections to the LED itself. The LED parts are inside the signal housing with two wires coming out connected to a plug that is identical to the 1187 light-bulb plug. I am no electrician either but it would make sense to me the higher current draw is inside the hard wired LED light assembly not at the plug.

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Ah, that is a good point... the bike should still be sending the same amount of electricity to the connection....which I would think would power right thru the grease. Eh, what do I know. Hopefully somebody who actually knows the answer will chime in.

BTW - Thats what she said
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 12:46 PM
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The reason is the LEDs don’t draw the same amount of power that the incandescent bulbs draw. Also the dialectric grease adds resistance and could make tye bulbs not to work properly.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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The reason is the LEDs don’t draw the same amount of power that the incandescent bulbs draw. Also the dialectric grease adds resistance and could make tye bulbs not to work properly.
The purpose for the grease is protection against corrosion? The same type plug is just now exposed to the corrosion? Why would one company say not use without the grease, another company instructs no grease?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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The main reason they say not to use it is that dielectric grease is an insulator. If too much is used it will interrupt the flow to the circuit and LEDs are very low power so a small interruption can be significant. Most people have a tendency to use the More is Better approach and that defeats any advantage the grease may have had.
The insulating properties BTW are similar to a capacitor. The more current, the more resistance.
 

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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BTLorys
Ah, that is a good point... the bike should still be sending the same amount of electricity to the connection....which I would think would power right thru the grease. Eh, what do I know. Hopefully somebody who actually knows the answer will chime in.

BTW - Thats what she said


Voltage and power draw or current are not the same thing. Voltage is potential, current is flow. You can have a hose with 50 psi of water in it, and if it is only allowed a small orifice out of which to flow it will not flow. Open that up and you will flow lots of water....
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 01:12 PM
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Let me know how you like those bulbs.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisy Cricket
The main reason they say not to use it is that dielectric grease is an insulator. If too much is used it will interrupt the flow to the circuit and LEDs are very low power so a small interruption can be significant. Most people have a tendency to use the More is Better approach and that defeats any advantage the grease may have had.
So is it possible Custom Dynamics saying not to use the grease is saying they are not worried about corrosion? If it takes over a year to destroy the plug the consumer has to purchase a new set. What everyone is saying makes perfectly good sense. I am not trying to make this difficult.

My main question is why would one company include the grease while the other sais using the grease could cause the lights not to work properly.

Every Youtube video I've watched detailing installation of these LED lights includes using the grease with the kit or specifies to make sure and apply your own. Meanwhile, CD specifically sais its not needed.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 01:17 PM
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So is it possible Custom Dynamics saying not to use the grease is saying they are not worried about corrosion? If it takes over a year to destroy the plug the consumer has to purchase a new set. What everyone is saying makes perfectly good sense. I am not trying to make this difficult.

My main question is why would one company include the grease while the other sais using the grease could cause the lights not to work properly.

Every Youtube video I've watched detailing installation of these LED lights includes using the grease with the kit or specifies to make sure and apply your own. Meanwhile, CD specifically sais its not needed.
My guess, and only a guess, is one company supplies such a small amount that it assumes you can't over grease, while the other assumes you are better off without the grease rather than take the chance. I imaging the troubleshooting by phone if it was a grease problem would be a nightmare!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisy Cricket
My guess, and only a guess, is one company supplies such a small amount that it assumes you can't over grease, while the other assumes you are better off without the grease rather than take the chance. I imaging the troubleshooting by phone if it was a grease problem would be a nightmare!
You may have a point. Custom Dynamics did not want to spend time explaining anything other than.....no grease required. Ciro tech spent 5-6 minutes telling me to use a lil grease on every electrical connection exposed to the elements, especially in humid climates. I have always used "bulb grease". When being replaced they come right out. Replacing bulbs without "bulb grease" the glass usually always twists out of the connector. This evening I am gonna add a little grease to each connection where I didn't to start with and see how it works. One thing I did notice is the HD 1187 connections are very strong and tight fitting.
 
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