Full Faced Help
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Westchester, NY
i also can't wear anything heavy. When on my breakout I only wear a 3/4 Bell Rolands Design helmet with a set of photochromic riding glasses. but on my Triumph Bonneville cafe racer I wear a retro full face Biltwell Gringo without shield. for me it just gets too hot for full face w/shield. when i had the sportbikes it was only full face (Arai or Shoei) but that's when i was younger and crazier. at 50 i no longer have the desire to push the limits of my bikes. last time I went over 80mph was a long time ago. no need for it anymore.
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From: Roseville, CA
i also can't wear anything heavy. When on my breakout I only wear a 3/4 Bell Rolands Design helmet with a set of photochromic riding glasses. but on my Triumph Bonneville cafe racer I wear a retro full face Biltwell Gringo without shield. for me it just gets too hot for full face w/shield. when i had the sportbikes it was only full face (Arai or Shoei) but that's when i was younger and crazier. at 50 i no longer have the desire to push the limits of my bikes. last time I went over 80mph was a long time ago. no need for it anymore.
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From: lancaster,ca
i also can't wear anything heavy. When on my breakout I only wear a 3/4 Bell Rolands Design helmet with a set of photochromic riding glasses. but on my Triumph Bonneville cafe racer I wear a retro full face Biltwell Gringo without shield. for me it just gets too hot for full face w/shield. when i had the sportbikes it was only full face (Arai or Shoei) but that's when i was younger and crazier. at 50 i no longer have the desire to push the limits of my bikes. last time I went over 80mph was a long time ago. no need for it anymore.
Wow, well my oldest son crashed on his mountain bike at I'm guessing 20-25 mph and the damage that he got to his face was a damn miracle that my son can walk and talk (no helmet he thought he was to cool to wear one, but now he has a cool helmet)...That being said I hope that magic speed bubble you ride in is pretty sturdy..
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Westchester, NY
guys, you can wear full face or 3/4 whatever you wish.. at high speeds you have bigger problems than your face. Your body, neck, arms, legs, back, etc will bend into positions you've never thought possible when hitting another object. There's no jacket, helmet, gloves, boots, etc that will save you if you're traveling at higher speeds. nothing, period. I study accidents for a living..
protective gears are designed for lower speed accidents. They meet minimum requirements. The real key is to be alert, proactive, and defensive. The number one killer is the cager's left hand turn into your path on an intersection. (doing less than 30mph)
those accidents resulted in broken bones, neck, back, etc. 2nd, was by excessive speed into tight turns by riders who continue to overestimate their riding abilities. Honestly, they don't lean enough. Most bike will handle more lean than you may feel comfortable doing. Number three, is following in someone's blind spot on the highway and being run over by the driver. (who most of the time states they didn't see you)
Connecticut's law doesn't even require a helmet. Stupid, but i'm sure they have statistics to back that up..
so at the end, get what you want but don't let that give you a false sense of security. Out there you we are still vulnerable regardless of what we wear.
protective gears are designed for lower speed accidents. They meet minimum requirements. The real key is to be alert, proactive, and defensive. The number one killer is the cager's left hand turn into your path on an intersection. (doing less than 30mph)
those accidents resulted in broken bones, neck, back, etc. 2nd, was by excessive speed into tight turns by riders who continue to overestimate their riding abilities. Honestly, they don't lean enough. Most bike will handle more lean than you may feel comfortable doing. Number three, is following in someone's blind spot on the highway and being run over by the driver. (who most of the time states they didn't see you)
Connecticut's law doesn't even require a helmet. Stupid, but i'm sure they have statistics to back that up..
so at the end, get what you want but don't let that give you a false sense of security. Out there you we are still vulnerable regardless of what we wear.
Last edited by Drodrigueznyc; Jul 25, 2016 at 06:48 PM.
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From: MASS_hole
I'll agree with you that leathers, gloves and boots will not help protect against impact.
But you're dead wrong on the helmet part.
A good quality ff helmet is the reason why I'm not dead today
But you're dead wrong on the helmet part.
A good quality ff helmet is the reason why I'm not dead today
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From: Roseville, CA
Lets imagine all the crashes that occur at 80mph for a minute. Back road twistys? Car pulling in front of you? Getting cut off in traffic?
How many of those crashes hit a fixed object? What about in racing?
If you hit a fixed object, you're in bad shape. If you high side, there is one initial impact after decelerating in mid-air, and then either a slide or a tumble. Or both. If you low side, a slide or a tumble while decelerating rapidly.
In other words, if I'm on my face sliding, or my head is turned, I may survive the impact, but I want my face protected while I slide and/or tumble.
How many of those crashes hit a fixed object? What about in racing?
If you hit a fixed object, you're in bad shape. If you high side, there is one initial impact after decelerating in mid-air, and then either a slide or a tumble. Or both. If you low side, a slide or a tumble while decelerating rapidly.
In other words, if I'm on my face sliding, or my head is turned, I may survive the impact, but I want my face protected while I slide and/or tumble.
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Road Captain
Joined: Jul 2015
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From: London, UK
I'd never ride without a full-face helmet.
A 'mate' took a tumble a couple of weeks ago - about 20mph and he was fine... but the chin-piece of his helmet was deeply gouged.
If that chin-piece wasn't there, neither would his jaw have been.
Each to their own, but the thought of even a low-speed crash in a open-face helmet simply scares me.
A 'mate' took a tumble a couple of weeks ago - about 20mph and he was fine... but the chin-piece of his helmet was deeply gouged.
If that chin-piece wasn't there, neither would his jaw have been.
Each to their own, but the thought of even a low-speed crash in a open-face helmet simply scares me.
