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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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looking at the HJC FG-Jet and the Shoei J-Cruise. I've owned both brands and both are good in my opinion. these two helmets seem to be very similar but the shoei is almost 3 x the price.

neither are snell approved, the HJC is about 1/2 lb lighter. very torn here
 
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I have a Hawk similar to the HJC an it was half the price of the HJC....I don't know if snell will approve a helmet that isn't FF.

this will probably be my next helmet, it has the drop down sun shade an the chin bar is removable:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hawk-Evoluti...hSlhxw&vxp=mtr
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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the only reason companies get dot or snell approval is because they pay for it. you know if a cop pulls you over they don't even know the difference and they don't have anything in any book to say whether or not it's dot approved and can't write you a ticket for it. buy the hjc, they always have good ratings as far as being safe. besides, at 60mph no one is going to be looking to see what kind of helmet you're wearing.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Comfort matters most. Most 3/4 helmets with a shield are real quiet when the face shield is lifted one notch. Many are wind noisy with the shield down all the way. This goes for my HJC, Gmax and Bilt 3/4 with shields. Other brands I cannot speak as to how quiet they are at 70.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2016 | 03:52 PM
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I got few helmets but love the HJC over all….
 
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I have had two HJC helmets. Probably still have one somewhere if I looked hard enough. I have never had an issue with them. I think for the money, they are just as good as the more expensive top shelf helmets.
 
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Originally Posted by Freak Show
the only reason companies get dot or snell approval is because they pay for it.
They pay for the testing. It's how the helmet fares in the testing which determines whether or not the helmet is approved.

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you know if a cop pulls you over they don't even know the difference and they don't have anything in any book to say whether or not it's dot approved and can't write you a ticket for it. buy the hjc, they always have good ratings as far as being safe. besides, at 60mph no one is going to be looking to see what kind of helmet you're wearing.
I believe that's incorrect, and that in many places, they can write you a ticket for any helmet that doesn't have DOT sticker.

On 3/4 versus full-face helmets:
The most common impact area is the area protected by the chin bar on a full-face. That's where 15-20% of the impacts occur. In contrast, the top of the helmet is only in the .4 to 2% range. So you're giving up an awful lot of your protection by not having a full-face. A diagram here: https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention...le_helmets.htm

So far, I haven't run across any 3/4, or any modular helmets (with the flip-up or moveable chin bar) that are Snell approved.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 04:33 AM
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I have been using the Joe Rocket Carbon Pro 3/4 and it has been great. It is very comfortable, quiet, good air flow with the vents open, light and I can swap out the visors. I love the thing.

http://www.joerocket.com/catalog/ind...ket_Carbon_Pro

 
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
They pay for the testing. It's how the helmet fares in the testing which determines whether or not the helmet is approved.



I believe that's incorrect, and that in many places, they can write you a ticket for any helmet that doesn't have DOT sticker.

On 3/4 versus full-face helmets:
The most common impact area is the area protected by the chin bar on a full-face. That's where 15-20% of the impacts occur. In contrast, the top of the helmet is only in the .4 to 2% range. So you're giving up an awful lot of your protection by not having a full-face. A diagram here: https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention...le_helmets.htm

So far, I haven't run across any 3/4, or any modular helmets (with the flip-up or moveable chin bar) that are Snell approved.
you're not getting what i'm saying. you yourself can put a DOT sticker on a helmet and the cops do not have anything in any book that enables them to tell the difference. someone once said hey can tell because it was a sticker, which is also untrue. i have a DOT helmet from Helmet city international(HCI)and the DOT was a sticker and it peeled off.
 
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