Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
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Road Warrior
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From: Sydney, Australia
RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
I went EVERYWHERE and couldn't find anything with that thread. It was when I went to about the 20th place that one guy told me that the thread wasn't imperial or metric and was an "American thread"... (which I didn't even realise was a 3rd option) and so I think I am going to have to order a couple from the states.
ANYBODY WANNA SEND ME A COUPLE OF NICE CHROME ONES AND MAKE A FEW BUCKS ON TOP?? MY PAYPAL IS READY AND WAITING!
For now I just bolted the O2 sensors back in but they're not connected to the wiring. From what you have said about them seizing, I guess the sooner I get them out and put some chrome plugs in the better!
Thanks for your your help and advice!
DeanO
PS: Look your bike, was seriously thinking about getting very similar one but they didn't have one that color in stock and I didn't wanna wait 4 months.
ANYBODY WANNA SEND ME A COUPLE OF NICE CHROME ONES AND MAKE A FEW BUCKS ON TOP?? MY PAYPAL IS READY AND WAITING!
For now I just bolted the O2 sensors back in but they're not connected to the wiring. From what you have said about them seizing, I guess the sooner I get them out and put some chrome plugs in the better!
Thanks for your your help and advice!
DeanO
PS: Look your bike, was seriously thinking about getting very similar one but they didn't have one that color in stock and I didn't wanna wait 4 months.
Tourer
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
no engine light should be on.. but your bike must be a non-us bike because you have the solinode thing that I assume it attaches to the back of the airfilter? ahh I see your an aussie!
anyway heres the link on the install of the PCIII behind the fender. https://www.hdforums.com/m_996958/tm.htm
no pics of the plug under the seat.. let me see if I have one. its a tight fit. and yeah it SUCKS they make you take off the relay support bracket so you can shove the fuse/relay boxes down to put the plug on top. I had to work with mine. I tried to redrill the bracket at first so that it would fit with the plug next to it, but it didnt work. so I ended up dremmeling off the TOP half of the bracket and use the bottom side (where they slide into) by itself. It supports the fuse/relay blocks but it allows it still to be pushed down to allow the plug to sit ontop for the PCIII tie-in.
I just didnt like the quality of the V&H pipes under the heat shields. the weld quality and that they dont polish out their tool marks was a bit of a disappointment after paying that much for an exhaust they couldnt do a better job of quality. V&H said its because it hidden by the heat shield that they DON'T care! I have had Micron and Muzzy exhaust systems on my other metric bikes and both of their quality finish/welds just kicks A@@ compared to V&H.
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anyway heres the link on the install of the PCIII behind the fender. https://www.hdforums.com/m_996958/tm.htm
no pics of the plug under the seat.. let me see if I have one. its a tight fit. and yeah it SUCKS they make you take off the relay support bracket so you can shove the fuse/relay boxes down to put the plug on top. I had to work with mine. I tried to redrill the bracket at first so that it would fit with the plug next to it, but it didnt work. so I ended up dremmeling off the TOP half of the bracket and use the bottom side (where they slide into) by itself. It supports the fuse/relay blocks but it allows it still to be pushed down to allow the plug to sit ontop for the PCIII tie-in.
I just didnt like the quality of the V&H pipes under the heat shields. the weld quality and that they dont polish out their tool marks was a bit of a disappointment after paying that much for an exhaust they couldnt do a better job of quality. V&H said its because it hidden by the heat shield that they DON'T care! I have had Micron and Muzzy exhaust systems on my other metric bikes and both of their quality finish/welds just kicks A@@ compared to V&H.
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Road Master
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RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
I actually have a pair of the O2 hole sensor bolts that I bought back in the pc3 days. I think I paid about 20 bucks for them with shipping and bs. They aer still on box. I just have to find them.
Also the PC3 doesnt go under the seat. it goes where the alarm mount is.
Also the PC3 doesnt go under the seat. it goes where the alarm mount is.
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Road Warrior
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RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
Hey,
Happy to pay you for them, shipping and some extra for your troubles if you have the time to pop down the post office and send them off to the land downunder. I am assuming they are chrome?
As for the PCIII. I didn't mount that under the seat, it sits behind the mudguard thing as it is supposed to but the connectors are under the seat and I now get the feeling I was supposed to push the relays right down towards the bottom of the battery and squeeze the connector into the same gap on top of them? Seems to work ok though but I might get the dealer to put them where they should be when they do the battery box recall thing which I got the letter about last week.
Regards,
DeanO
Happy to pay you for them, shipping and some extra for your troubles if you have the time to pop down the post office and send them off to the land downunder. I am assuming they are chrome?
As for the PCIII. I didn't mount that under the seat, it sits behind the mudguard thing as it is supposed to but the connectors are under the seat and I now get the feeling I was supposed to push the relays right down towards the bottom of the battery and squeeze the connector into the same gap on top of them? Seems to work ok though but I might get the dealer to put them where they should be when they do the battery box recall thing which I got the letter about last week.
Regards,
DeanO
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Road Warrior
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From: Sydney, Australia
RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
Yeah I agree about the pipes... they look "rough as guts" without the shields on. Upside ofcourse is that they are THE SHEEIITT *WITH* the shields on! Overall they have improved the look of my bike 100% I reckon! Noticed it got a LOT more looks today than it usually does.
As for the bit that I took off, I will include a pic below. I thought it was a standard worldwide thing. Had no idea that only us Aussies and Europeans got this crap on our bikes. It is basically a motor that pulls a cable and deflects the exhaust at lower rpm to only come out of the bottom pipe. As you increase the rpm, the cable pulls the opens the valve and lets the exhaust come out of both the top and bottom pipe. Is this what is meant by the "air box eliminator"? Sounds like that might be something else.
Anyway the bit pictured below bolts to the standard exhaust bracket and sits just inside the frame on the exhaust sidejust in front of the rear swing arm. Anyway it is the bit in the photo that I would like to know if there is an eliminator plug for.
Regards,
DeanO
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As for the bit that I took off, I will include a pic below. I thought it was a standard worldwide thing. Had no idea that only us Aussies and Europeans got this crap on our bikes. It is basically a motor that pulls a cable and deflects the exhaust at lower rpm to only come out of the bottom pipe. As you increase the rpm, the cable pulls the opens the valve and lets the exhaust come out of both the top and bottom pipe. Is this what is meant by the "air box eliminator"? Sounds like that might be something else.
Anyway the bit pictured below bolts to the standard exhaust bracket and sits just inside the frame on the exhaust sidejust in front of the rear swing arm. Anyway it is the bit in the photo that I would like to know if there is an eliminator plug for.
Regards,
DeanO
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Road Warrior
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From: Sydney, Australia
RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
Here is a paragraph I read on the web about the active exhaust rubbish on my bike...
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News on the 2007 Fat Boy is a fatter 200mm rear tyre, redesigned rear fender, new 17-inch bullet-hole disc wheel, new fat internally-wired handlebars, new graphics and the Twin Cam 96B V-twin. In Europe we get active intake and exhaust that keeps the characteristic sound and acceleration in first fifth and sixth gear, whilst one valve in the upper exhaust remains closed in the other gears at certain rpm-All for the sake of Euro 3 and sound regulations. On the road this feels a bit strange. There were plenty of second gear corners up the mountain that we rode and from first to second gear it is noticeable that something is missing. There is an easy fix to the problem though. Just swap the upper silencer with the bottom one and the exhaust valve becomes “unemployed”. The clutch operation is now 10% lighter and that makes it more user-friendly. The gearbox itself is now six-speed and improved, but still not as smooth as on a Japanese box. The new overdrive sixth gear is a true overdrive for use on the motorway at higher speeds. When using sixth gear from 40-50mph I had to gear down to regain momentum. I would have loved to ride the CVO Fat Boy to really experience what that big air-cooled twin can do.
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News on the 2007 Fat Boy is a fatter 200mm rear tyre, redesigned rear fender, new 17-inch bullet-hole disc wheel, new fat internally-wired handlebars, new graphics and the Twin Cam 96B V-twin. In Europe we get active intake and exhaust that keeps the characteristic sound and acceleration in first fifth and sixth gear, whilst one valve in the upper exhaust remains closed in the other gears at certain rpm-All for the sake of Euro 3 and sound regulations. On the road this feels a bit strange. There were plenty of second gear corners up the mountain that we rode and from first to second gear it is noticeable that something is missing. There is an easy fix to the problem though. Just swap the upper silencer with the bottom one and the exhaust valve becomes “unemployed”. The clutch operation is now 10% lighter and that makes it more user-friendly. The gearbox itself is now six-speed and improved, but still not as smooth as on a Japanese box. The new overdrive sixth gear is a true overdrive for use on the motorway at higher speeds. When using sixth gear from 40-50mph I had to gear down to regain momentum. I would have loved to ride the CVO Fat Boy to really experience what that big air-cooled twin can do.
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Road Master
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From: Alta Loma, CA
RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
Ohhh thats right your in Australia. These bolts are the ones that block off the holes in the pipes that the O2 sensors used to go into? No to be negative but this is just another reason to get the SERT. You won't have to worry about the PC3 placement or room. I had the exact same issue when I had the PC3 on my bike. Its really simple. You plug your laptop into the supplied plug and send the new map to the ECU. There is no add-on equipment or anything extra. You send the map and unplug it from the bike and its ready to go.
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Road Warrior
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RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
Took me an hour but I read that whole thread on the PCIII probs. If I start having probs I will do as you suggest and give this the flush and get a SERT. For now all is good and I don't have a problem eliminating the bits that are there for Pollution reasons. I guess if our governments were serious about pollution they wouldn't be trying to bring in millions of unwanted immigrants to our countries to add to it. It's all a scam by criminal politicians!! 
So far so good though so at this point all I need is a couple of chrome bolts / sump plugs or whatever people are using to block off where the O2 sensors are now and the Active exhaust and airbox eliminators which I can order online and I should be rockin!!
Must admit though... I like having NEAT jobs and the SERT sounds like it would look a lot neater, stock and I have a sneaking suspicion will last the life of the bike as opposed to the PCIII which looks like it will get a shower / bath one day when I go through a puddle.
Regards,
DeanO
So far so good though so at this point all I need is a couple of chrome bolts / sump plugs or whatever people are using to block off where the O2 sensors are now and the Active exhaust and airbox eliminators which I can order online and I should be rockin!!
Must admit though... I like having NEAT jobs and the SERT sounds like it would look a lot neater, stock and I have a sneaking suspicion will last the life of the bike as opposed to the PCIII which looks like it will get a shower / bath one day when I go through a puddle.
Regards,
DeanO
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Tourer
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RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
You did the right thing...you do not want the O2 sensors in. Use the PCIII and the elminators. Harley uses a narrow band system and does almost nothing for you anyway. Actually using the EX system with the O2 sensors hinders yourself because it will not allow the PCIII to make the proper changes to give you the performance you are looking for. Unless you are in California you do not want the EX system.
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RE: Big Radius and PCIII USB - Need Help !
DeanO,
For what it's worth, I just installed the PCIII on my Deuce, and played around with programs. My son-in-law and I spent about two hours having a kick a-- time with the laptop and bike. When all was said and done, I picked the map I liked and took a spin. It was like riding a new bike - hell, it IS new, but felt even better. I was in 5th at 110 MPH still pulling hard, but was dusk and got worried about deerand backed off. Read the plugs when I was done and they're great. The install, in my opinion, was clean, and water shouldn't be a worry. I even siloconed the USB cable into the PCIII, and ran it up under the seat. Now all I have to do it take the seat off and fine tune more as I go. Far as I'm concerned: best thing I've done for the bike so far. Oh yea, the O2 censors are plugged off.
Have fun - Frank
For what it's worth, I just installed the PCIII on my Deuce, and played around with programs. My son-in-law and I spent about two hours having a kick a-- time with the laptop and bike. When all was said and done, I picked the map I liked and took a spin. It was like riding a new bike - hell, it IS new, but felt even better. I was in 5th at 110 MPH still pulling hard, but was dusk and got worried about deerand backed off. Read the plugs when I was done and they're great. The install, in my opinion, was clean, and water shouldn't be a worry. I even siloconed the USB cable into the PCIII, and ran it up under the seat. Now all I have to do it take the seat off and fine tune more as I go. Far as I'm concerned: best thing I've done for the bike so far. Oh yea, the O2 censors are plugged off.
Have fun - Frank