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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by abadley
I was going by what the MOCO website said on specifications and it did not list cruise on the deluxe but said it was standard on the heritage. I agree you are getting a hell of a bike with the 114". I will be checking one out when the hit the dealer floor.
My mistake, apologies. I thought it was standard on the 16/17's. If they took it away, that's just silly. It's about a $250 upgrade and I wish they would make them for older models. I have an 03 FatBoy and an 08 DLX that will never have cruise. That sux...
 
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jkiser
I have had 2 newer (2012 and 2016) Heritage Classic and they both rode like crap IMO. I think the new bikes look very good and the improvements on the frame and the motor will maker them big sellers. I find it funny all the people complaining about the 18's and all we have seen are pics.. I bet they look much better in person..I have a 2017 Road King Special and there is a night and day difference from the M8 vs the 103.

I also agree, the people that think the pre 18 Heritage is going up in value are nuts. There are a million of them out there for sale on the used market. That drives the new prices down..

I applaud the MOCO for trying to modernize the Harley line. If people don't like the new bikes, don't buy one.. Its pretty simple..
Yo do realize that this company has been making a living on repeat buyers, trade-ins and the demographic that supports them the most is the above 35 yr olds, right? If that demographic thinks the product looks like ****, I'd be worried, not applauding them.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 01:47 PM
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same response as the other thread...

No Springer...no new Harley for me.

I'm keeping mine until I'm dead.



I'd be over at Triumph if I was in the market for a new bike.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 03:58 PM
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The new HD, as described by Kevin Cameron... http://www.cycleworld.com/2018-harle...opment#page-10
 
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYING_BURRITO_BROTHER
same response as the other thread...

No Springer...no new Harley for me.

I'm keeping mine until I'm dead.



I'd be over at Triumph if I was in the market for a new bike.
Agreed! Springer or nothin.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lewk
Somehow I can't help but suspect that it was a calculated move by the MoCo. This launch does not depreciate the 2017 and earlier years. The 2018s still have enough variations that someone looking to buy could still find a suitable model. Then in 2019 I bet that the MoCo will do a Big Bang of a launch.
Boy I sure hope so.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 11:10 PM
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The swing arm is VASTLY different. The top tube follows the backbone angle, but the bottom one is parallel to the ground, much like a bicycle frame.

This completely detracts from the look of a rigid frame, which was the whole reason why Bill Davis designed it in the first place.

While the oil bag under the seat was cool, I can do without that. But bring the original swing arm shape back.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Wilder
The swing arm is VASTLY different. The top tube follows the backbone angle, but the bottom one is parallel to the ground, much like a bicycle frame.

This completely detracts from the look of a rigid frame, which was the whole reason why Bill Davis designed it in the first place.

While the oil bag under the seat was cool, I can do without that. But bring the original swing arm shape back.
The 2018 Softail frame is closer to Bill Davis' design than what HD produced from 1984-2017.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 11:48 PM
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The 2018 lineup to me is an embarrassment. This is my opinion and I’m old, I was raised in the 60s and 70s when the only one that had a Harley was usually in the hells angels and you better steer clear. These bikes to me look so stupid and so far off from what I got into Harley’s for in the first place it’s ridiculous. Even HDs website shows kids riding around and tackling each other. This will be the last Harley I ever own, I got a 2008 fxstc because they’ve at least got an old school look, these and the springers. How sad they sold out like this. They basically sold out their current clientele, disregarding what anyone thinks to try to capture the new crowd. What a bunch of douchebags.
 

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Old Apr 22, 2018 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Prot
The 2018 Softail frame is closer to Bill Davis' design than what HD produced from 1984-2017.
Bills design had the same triangulated swing arm as all the Softails up till 2017 had.

 
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