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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 08:43 AM
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BikenG If I remember correctly aren't the low profile rims tubeless?
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. Whose 'low profile rims'?
 
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I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. Whose 'low profile rims'?
HD has/had a low profile rim that they sell and sold as stock on Heritages last year with tubeless tires.
 
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HD has/had a low profile rim that they sell and sold as stock on Heritages last year with tubeless tires.
You can put tubeless tyres on any rim, but if you want to have no tube, then either the spoke holes have to be sealed, or the spokes must attach outside of the sealed rim. As I mentioned, this is often done now by having them attach to the outside of the bead. Otherwise it has been done by using a central flange around the inner side of the rim and the spokes attach sideways through this and hence don't penetrate inside the rim. Maybe someone has invented another attachment method, but certainly not in common use and anyway they all cause a huge visual style change that as far as I can tell, H-D owners wouldn't accept.

I can't say 100%, but I doubt H-D have used any tubeless spoked rims, even though a tyre may be and state Tubeless on it's side. E.g the Ducati Scrambler uses tubeless tyres on its spoked rims - but with tubes. Triumph do the same on their Thruxton R. It's just not worth the trouble of trying to seal a spoked rim and I would say impossible to also look like an old style traditional spoked wheel such as H-D need to use so owners will accept them.
 
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The low profile rims were stamped tubeless on the rim itself.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Softy
The low profile rims were stamped tubeless on the rim itself.
Ok, happy to admit I'm no H-D expert, so how were the spokes attached to the rim? Can you provide a link to those rims?
 
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https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...inum-rims.html
 
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Originally Posted by BiKenG
Ok, happy to admit I'm no H-D expert, so how were the spokes attached to the rim? Can you provide a link to those rims?
I am not sure about how the spokes were attached. The only reason I know about the rims being tubeless is I asked here than asked the salesperson selling the bike.

The type rims you are talking about are they mostly aftermarket types like the big spoke rims?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Softy
I am not sure about how the spokes were attached. The only reason I know about the rims being tubeless is I asked here than asked the salesperson selling the bike.

The type rims you are talking about are they mostly aftermarket types like the big spoke rims?
Interesting. Those rims require the use of a 'rim seal' which allows them to be used tubeless. The reason they specify that only rims marked as tubeless can be used as such will be because of the rim profile. These will have the required profile shape to allow the tyre bead to seal on the rim, whereas a normal tube type rim does not and should therefore not be used without tube, although you can sometimes get away with it, but that's not acceptable for the bike manufacturer.

But back to this question, yes it does appear that H-D have supplied spoked rims with a special seal to enable tubeless use. I stand corrected. I never said it was impossible, but I was not aware of any manufacturer that had done so. Now I am . Thank you for pointing that out.

It does however rather complicate things for H-D owners as if you have spoked wheels, you need to be very aware of what type they are and what tyre you're fitting.

I stand by my earlier comment though as I'm pretty sure that BMW, Triumph and Honda only provide tubeless spoked rims with spoke attachment systems that do not penetrate to the air space and hence no special seal is required. H-D are the only manufacturer of which I am (now) aware that supply spoked rims with special seals to allow them to be used tubeless. But if anyone does know of any other, then do say as I'd be interested to know.
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Softy
...The type rims you are talking about are they mostly aftermarket types like the big spoke rims?
By far the majority of spoked rims are NOT tubeless. I even tried to find some tubeless spoked rims for a project and the wheel builder/supplier said only the actual bike manufacturers (or at least their suppliers) produce such tubeless spoked rims and they really were not available elsewhere in the general market.

I did however come across I think an Italian company making some tubeless spoked wheels, but only complete wheels and the cost was exorbitant.
 
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Originally Posted by BiKenG
I stand by my earlier comment though as I'm pretty sure that BMW, Triumph and Honda only provide tubeless spoked rims with spoke attachment systems that do not penetrate to the air space and hence no special seal is required. H-D are the only manufacturer of which I am (now) aware that supply spoked rims with special seals to allow them to be used tubeless. But if anyone does know of any other, then do say as I'd be interested to know.

Everybody and their brother has come out with tubeless spoke wheels in the last few years...there are company's that will convert any spoke wheel to tubeless.

http://www.motorcyclecruiser.com/sea...tubeless-tires
 
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