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I find all the complaints about the Fatbob interesting.
It's exactly what Dyna riders have been asking for in every way except looks. It's got the suspension, brakes, chassis stiffness and power we've been asking the Moco for forever. It has better lighting, whether or not you like the looks. I was never fond of the dual round headlights either so I'd vote for the brighter of 2 evils.
A friend who has always been in the Overpriced, overhyped, underperforming camp rode the Fatbob (it was the least Harley, so that appealed to him). He was amazed by it and is stockpiling cash over the winter to buy it.
Harley needed to find a way to attract new riders while appeasing as many of the faithful as possible. Only time will tell if it's going to work. It hasn't worked with the Street in North America, not sure about the rest of the world.
It's exactly what Dyna riders have been asking for in every way except looks. It's got the suspension, brakes, chassis stiffness and power we've been asking the Moco for forever. It has better lighting, whether or not you like the looks. I was never fond of the dual round headlights either so I'd vote for the brighter of 2 evils.
A friend who has always been in the Overpriced, overhyped, underperforming camp rode the Fatbob (it was the least Harley, so that appealed to him). He was amazed by it and is stockpiling cash over the winter to buy it.
Harley needed to find a way to attract new riders while appeasing as many of the faithful as possible. Only time will tell if it's going to work. It hasn't worked with the Street in North America, not sure about the rest of the world.
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I'd be worried if they tried v rod or buell again, repeating what didn't work. But they're not. They continuing to try, very hard, to win, learning from the past and taking their best shot at the future. They've engineered tremendous performance and value into these new bikes. They've addressed the negative narrative surrounding Harley Davidson while adhering pretty closely to the tradition and style that we love and care most about. Pointing out failures of the past doesn't speak to the future unless they're doing the exact same thing over again. Instead, I'm encouraged by their resilience to recover and try again with a new approach that considers everything they've learned along the way, along with the rapidly changing world that they must compete in.
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Absolutely true. The best handling and performing Harley-Davidson ever made. On the other hand...
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The Fatboy looks badazz except for maybe the headlight...it just doesn't look like a Fatboy...should have come up with a new name.
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Greatest thing about the Fatboy, where they put the adjustable suspension ****. Haven't seen any of the other bikes but I think that was a brilliant move, it looks good there.
The big *** back tire looks great too.
One of my sons is currently deployed and he was wanting to buy a Dyna when he got home, mostly because it was affordable. Dealer had a couple 2016's on the floor last month, both listed about $15k. That's affordable to a 22 year old on a military salary.
Now that they're gone, I'm not sure he's willing to spend $20k on a new bike. He already has a car loan and I don't want to see him over extend himself.
The big *** back tire looks great too.
One of my sons is currently deployed and he was wanting to buy a Dyna when he got home, mostly because it was affordable. Dealer had a couple 2016's on the floor last month, both listed about $15k. That's affordable to a 22 year old on a military salary.
Now that they're gone, I'm not sure he's willing to spend $20k on a new bike. He already has a car loan and I don't want to see him over extend himself.
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the vrods were crap, great engine saddled with poor everything else and effectively left to wither since inception. I can agree on pricing though, damn expensive bikes for what they offer. hell the Heritage cost as much as a Road King does. If not for the bags it might be equal or better though.
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It is more convenient and easier to use though
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These are the initial posts from the two recent threads the OP started.
OP, it seems like you are a doomsday soothsayer
From the thread The day the softail died, and the moco lost its mind
From this thread Friendly wager
OP, it seems like you are a doomsday soothsayer
I get it, sales are slumping. But changing the softail to appear more like a metric is not the answer. In this latest gamble, Harley has completely turned its back on the people who are actually buying them. I think the main reason sales are slumping is due to rising prices, not quality, or lacktherof quality.
Personally, I think they laid an egg. Getting rid of the dyna line completely? Total madness. Someone will lose their job over this debacle. Crappy job, Harley, real crappy job.
Personally, I think they laid an egg. Getting rid of the dyna line completely? Total madness. Someone will lose their job over this debacle. Crappy job, Harley, real crappy job.
From this thread Friendly wager
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I Call it as I see it.