Softail Models Standard, Custom, Night Train, Deuce, Springer, Heritage, Fatboy, Deluxe, Rocker and Cross Bones.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

power vision auto tune question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 11:06 AM
  #1  
koolbreez's Avatar
koolbreez
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 277
Likes: 31
From: texas
Default power vision auto tune question

Is the power vision auto tune feature as good as power commander V with autotune? Have been running pc5 with autotune put cams and pistons on bike no problems runs great but that system utilized wideband O2 sensors where as power vision does not.
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 01:03 PM
  #2  
adm's Avatar
adm
Seasoned HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,807
Likes: 2,549
From: UK
Default

Power vision has an add on "Smart Tune" module that uses wideband sensors.

But the basic autotune on the unit with just OEM narrowband sensors does a pretty good job by itself.
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 04:17 PM
  #3  
T^2's Avatar
T^2
Stellar HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 3,117
Likes: 1,192
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by koolbreez
Is the power vision auto tune feature as good as power commander V with autotune? Have been running pc5 with autotune put cams and pistons on bike no problems runs great but that system utilized wideband O2 sensors where as power vision does not.
Power Vision wide band options...

Autotune Pro - Uses widebands for tuning only

Target Tune - Wide bands for tuning and regular operation (permanent install)

http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/p...#pvAccessories
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 06:28 PM
  #4  
izzyryder's Avatar
izzyryder
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,514
Likes: 88
From: USA
Default

I have been running powercommander 5 with the added on wide band autotune on my Dyna and recently (after over a year of auto tuning and creating a map with it) moved it over to my 2018 softail fat bob.

The power commander 5 for the 2018 softail's can use the AT-101B auto tune, the only thing that's changed is the plug that draws power, so you can just tap into any aux power line for that.

I did consider the Powervision, but don't like the idea of autotune with narrow band sensors. It seems the only way to get a true autotune wideband setup is by purchasing the add on module.

So in the end, I found that using the power commander 5 and the add on wide band autotune kit was much better (for me) and cheaper.

I know the Powervision itself offers more tweaking but I didn't feel I needed it at this time.
 
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 06:30 PM
  #5  
izzyryder's Avatar
izzyryder
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,514
Likes: 88
From: USA
Default

Also, just to add I did speak with Dynojet extensively on this and their advice was that unless you were getting the full autotune setup for the powervision, to go with powercommander 5 with autotune as that it was better than using the target tune with the narrow band sensors.
 

Last edited by izzyryder; Feb 18, 2018 at 06:34 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:27 PM
  #6  
koolbreez's Avatar
koolbreez
Thread Starter
|
Tourer
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 277
Likes: 31
From: texas
Default

thanks for the info like the idea of not having to find a place to put the pc5 and autotune module (it was tough on my Nightster) so the power vision was tempting. Haven't taken the seat of the fatboy yet to see what kind of room there is but pc5 has worked on my old bike.
 
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 07:07 AM
  #7  
wadejesu's Avatar
wadejesu
Road Captain
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 647
Likes: 29
From: Alabama
Default

You can't use target tune with narrow band sensors
 
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 01:26 PM
  #8  
izzyryder's Avatar
izzyryder
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,514
Likes: 88
From: USA
Default

Originally Posted by wadejesu
You can't use target tune with narrow band sensors
Sorry, you're correct. It's called autotune basic (that uses the narrow bands) I'm going to edit my post to correct it.

Edit: looks like I can't..
 

Last edited by izzyryder; Feb 19, 2018 at 01:30 PM.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tomoad
The Dyno Room
5
Aug 21, 2017 02:54 PM
Andy Gallaher
Touring Models
7
Mar 6, 2016 07:51 PM
SnoRider
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
3
Sep 30, 2015 06:57 AM
bigskyroadglide
Touring Models
36
Apr 11, 2014 07:28 AM
mojojones
Softail Models
5
Jun 22, 2009 06:19 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:44 PM.