07 engines running hot ???
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
If heat is the disease, XIED is the cure. \\; All the other suggestions are great for increasing power but XIED is all you need to fix the high heat issue on TC96 motors.
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
And if you do your research (Search is Your Friend!
) and decide you want to install a tuner, be sure to also check out the Thundermax with Autotune...
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I think it really depends where you live and ride, as to how your heat experiences will be with your bike. Many don't have any noticable issues, some only on extreme days, and others can hardly get away from it. I think it is a combination of ambient temperatures and humidity levels, as well as traffic patterns as mentioned above, as I've seen a number of folks in places such as Texas and Arizona who don't experience the extreme high levels I have (living in Southern California). The pipes, AC and synthetic didn't do it on their own, nor did adding the PC III into the equation. The Thundermax seems to have gotten closer, so far, but I also will be adding an oil cooler this week.
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Roger
) and decide you want to install a tuner, be sure to also check out the Thundermax with Autotune...  \\;
I think it really depends where you live and ride, as to how your heat experiences will be with your bike. Many don't have any noticable issues, some only on extreme days, and others can hardly get away from it. I think it is a combination of ambient temperatures and humidity levels, as well as traffic patterns as mentioned above, as I've seen a number of folks in places such as Texas and Arizona who don't experience the extreme high levels I have (living in Southern California). The pipes, AC and synthetic didn't do it on their own, nor did adding the PC III into the equation. The Thundermax seems to have gotten closer, so far, but I also will be adding an oil cooler this week.
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Roger
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
Gotta change the actually air/fuel ratio in the engine to reduce heat. Leaner mix runs hotter. O2 sensors will detect level of O2, but the computer and fuel trim tables decide what o2 level is too rich or too lean. Change all the AC and pipes you want but wont matter till you tell the computer how to read its data and output commands for a richer mix.
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
Living in Central Texas my 2007 has done well I guess. When I first rode it I could get about 250-255* sitting at idle in 100*+ temps. After the 1000 mile synth oil change I have yet to see over 240*.
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To those who feel the heat, are you compairing the heat to other bikes, or just saying it feels hot at a stop? As I dont think its hotter by feel than other years.
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Black Denim 2007 Night Train.
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To those who feel the heat, are you compairing the heat to other bikes, or just saying it feels hot at a stop? As I dont think its hotter by feel than other years.
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Black Denim 2007 Night Train.
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Running hot! So how would you tell until theres a problem and the idiot light comes on. \\; It makes sense to have a temp gauge on a mount that is offered as an option by someone. \\; I have investigated this option and I get a blank stare from most people then I am told about the oil cap that you have to lift your leg to read. \\; Any suggestions on a tree mount gauge set that can be added? Anyone?
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
To those who feel the heat, are you compairing the heat to other bikes, or just saying it feels hot at a stop? As I dont think its hotter by feel than other years.
My riding buddy has an `05 Fat Boy, same pipes and AC, and we both have dip sticks with temperature guages. We've compared often enough over the last year to have a pretty good feel for it, and up until the last ride (after I installed the T-Max) his was always 15-30* cooler for any given range. Realizing that there \\;is undoubtedly \\;some variance between the two guages, and neither could be considered precision measuring instruments, it is convincing to me and substantiates the other symptoms (excessive radiant heat, pinging upon acceleration at real high temps, etc.). During our last ride, last Saturday, for the first time my bike stayed cooler than his for nearly all the ride, with the exception of a stretch where we were in heavy stop-and-stop traffic for an extended period... mine peaked at 274* and his was just above 260*.
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Running hot! So how would you tell until theres a problem and the idiot light comes on. \\;It makes sense to have a temp gauge on a mount that is offered as an option by someone. \\;I have investigated this option and I get a blank stare from most people then I am told about the oil cap that you have to lift your leg to read. \\;Any suggestions on a tree mount gauge set that can be added? Anyone?
When they start running hot, you'll know... you can feel it first from the radiating heat, then can feel the bike's performance degrade, then start hearing pinging when you accelerate (at least for me those are the symptoms). You can get the dip stick with the \\;digital (got one) or analog \\;guage, \\;which serve the purpose fine for me. Or you can get a separate guage to mount. I like the clean and simple use of the dipstick myself. I do have to move my leg just a bit to push the button, but it is no big deal. The analog is even easier... not sure why you think moving the leg is a big deal, but I don't find it to be so.
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Roger
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ORIGINAL: dlc@prodigy.net
Running hot! So how would you tell until theres a problem and the idiot light comes on. \\;\\\\\\; It makes sense to have a temp gauge on a mount that is offered as an option by someone. \\;\\\\\\; I have investigated this option and I get a blank stare from most people then I am told about the oil cap that you have to lift your leg to read. \\;\\\\\\; Any suggestions on a tree mount gauge set that can be added? Anyone?
Running hot! So how would you tell until theres a problem and the idiot light comes on. \\;\\\\\\; It makes sense to have a temp gauge on a mount that is offered as an option by someone. \\;\\\\\\; I have investigated this option and I get a blank stare from most people then I am told about the oil cap that you have to lift your leg to read. \\;\\\\\\; Any suggestions on a tree mount gauge set that can be added? Anyone?
I'm with you on the remote gauge. I just haven't found anything I like yet. For me, lifting my leg isn't the issue. It's more the lack of accuracy attributed to dipstick gauges.
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RE: 07 engines running hot ???
For me, it's just a point of reference. Doesn't matter if it is within .01% tolerance, or off by 30*, I at least have a convenient and constant reference point at my disposal. As long as I can sneak a peek at various points of the ride, I can monitor the general trend and the longer that I do so the better the reference point becomes. If the bike is telling me it is running good, I can identify the range. If it starts to act up, I also have a point of reference for that.
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From some of the posts I've seen, the guages aren't typically that far off either. I've never done the boiling pot test, but may have to do so to satisfy my curiosity now... we have a good cooking thermometer that I can use for comparison.
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Roger
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From some of the posts I've seen, the guages aren't typically that far off either. I've never done the boiling pot test, but may have to do so to satisfy my curiosity now... we have a good cooking thermometer that I can use for comparison.
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Roger
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For me, it's just a point of reference. Doesn't matter if it is within .01% tolerance, or off by 30*, I at least have a convenient and constant reference point at my disposal. As long as I can sneak a peek at various points of the ride, I can monitor the general trend and the longer that I do so the better the reference point becomes. If the bike is telling me it is running good, I can identify the range. If it starts to act up, I also have a point of reference for that.
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From some of the posts I've seen, the guages aren't typically that far off either. I've never done the boiling pot test, but may have to do so to satisfy my curiosity now... we have a good cooking thermometer that I can use for comparison.
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Roger
For me, it's just a point of reference. Doesn't matter if it is within .01% tolerance, or off by 30*, I at least have a convenient and constant reference point at my disposal. As long as I can sneak a peek at various points of the ride, I can monitor the general trend and the longer that I do so the better the reference point becomes. If the bike is telling me it is running good, I can identify the range. If it starts to act up, I also have a point of reference for that.
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From some of the posts I've seen, the guages aren't typically that far off either. I've never done the boiling pot test, but may have to do so to satisfy my curiosity now... we have a good cooking thermometer that I can use for comparison.
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Roger
OK, get a pot of water on and satisfy my curiosity too.