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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 04:05 AM
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Novice help. What does this mean, 2009 nite


What does this mean? No manual at hand
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 08:11 AM
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Novice help. What does this mean, 2009 nite


What does this mean? No manual at hand

 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 08:21 AM
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May be a stupid question but what of the ECM has been changed?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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May be a stupid question but what of the ECM has been changed?

I would suspect that as long as the new ECM tables relating to mileage are set up for that particular bike, the range number should be as accurate as before the ECM swap...

I have found the range number to be close at times, and sometimes it's off by a good bit.... It can change rapidly if I start to play with the throttle...

It's just a guide anyways, nothing I would consider a concrete number...
 

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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 04:17 PM
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I think what he is asking is = If the ECM is changed with a new speedo or the speed that matched that ECM [ form another bike ], wouldn't that be a way to show incorrect [ lower ]milage?

But, I could be wayyyy off. Known to happen.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MarlinSpike
I think what he is asking is = If the ECM is changed with a new speedo or the speed that matched that ECM [ form another bike ], wouldn't that be a way to show incorrect [ lower ]milage?

But, I could be wayyyy off. Known to happen.
Yes, that's pretty much what I was asking. However, that might be a very expensive way to lower the displayed mileage. I have no idea what a HD ECM cost.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 06:13 PM
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Yes, that's pretty much what I was asking. However, that might be a very expensive way to lower the displayed mileage. I have no idea what a HD ECM cost.

Interesting question.... my bikes have the mileage in the speedo on two, and the other has a BCM... so not sure what part the speedo has on changing the ECM...

Prior to the BCM, there were a series of speedos (forget the years) where the speedo got the mileage from the ECM via a temporary cable connection...... Then you would install the speedo and drive for 25 miles. After 25 miles, they were permanently married.

I've never read about going the other way... changing the ECM and matching it to current mileage... or if it even needs that...

Someone will know/chime in with the procedure...
 

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Old Jun 30, 2022 | 07:29 PM
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I once had to change a circuit board on the CBR speedo module. Milage was started over at zero after that. I know it's not HD or apples to apples. But electronics can be adjusted, where there is a will there is a way.
For example, I have crashed HD that I am parting out. I also have a high mile super clean similar HD. I change out all the electronics, ECM, speedo panel, whatever it takes. - Walla, low milage super clean bike that I make a lot more $$$$ off. I bet it happens all the time in the flippers and parters world.
 
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Originally Posted by MarlinSpike
I once had to change a circuit board on the CBR speedo module. Milage was started over at zero after that. I know it's not HD or apples to apples. But electronics can be adjusted, where there is a will there is a way.
For example, I have crashed HD that I am parting out. I also have a high mile super clean similar HD. I change out all the electronics, ECM, speedo panel, whatever it takes. - Walla, low milage super clean bike that I make a lot more $$$$ off. I bet it happens all the time in the flippers and parters world.
Pretty much what I was thinking. Don't turners "hack" into the ECM to adjust the fuel maps?
 
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Old Jul 1, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mseawell1022
May be a stupid question but what of the ECM has been changed?
Originally Posted by hattitude
I would suspect that as long as the new ECM tables relating to mileage are set up for that particular bike, the range number should be as accurate as before the ECM swap...

I have found the range number to be close at times, and sometimes it's off by a good bit.... It can change rapidly if I start to play with the throttle...

It's just a guide anyways, nothing I would consider a concrete number...
This may or may not be of any pertinent information, but I'll try.

when I purchased a ThunderMax ECU for my 06 RKC, I got the "VIN ERR" message. The bike already had the H-D speedo/tach upgrade and I didn't want to get rid of that. They state to install the new VIN in the TMAX ECU and it should go away. If I'm remembering correctly, that didn't work.

I read up on the issue and while the exact process is a bit foggy now, I remember lifting the tank-mounted gauge pod and unplugging and plugging in the speedo/tach according to a specific process. I can't find that process on the 'net right now and I can't tell if it was a TMax thing or just the way H-D works. If I can come across that information again, I'll update my input. I at least wanted to note that a new ECU will need to be mated to the gauges, but it is possible. Hope it helps!
 

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