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Old May 12, 2021 | 06:28 AM
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Installed a phone charger on Wifey's '16 Heritage. I lifted the tank to find a route for the chord and it's now leaking from the QD at back left of the tank. Thinking I cracked the fitting.

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Installed a phone charger on Wifey's '16 Heritage. I lifted the tank to find a route for the chord and it's now leaking from the QD at back left of the tank. Thinking I cracked the fitting.

Thoughts?

While it's possible that the fitting can crack, it's pretty stout and shouldn't be damaged just from removing/attaching the quick disconnect...

First... make sure the bottom fuel line fitting is pushed all the way up into the tank valve portion and the spring collar mechanism on the tank valve portion, the same collar you need to push up to remove the fuel line, has sprung back down fully. Sometimes you need to push up on the fuel line while pulling down on the valve collar. You'll hear/feel it click when the fuel line is properly fitted and locked in...

If the fuel line is properly inserted and the spring collar is fully in it's down position, I would next suspect it is more likely that one of the o-rings either was displaced or pinched causing the leak.

There are two o-rings in the tank portion of the valve. There is an upper and a lower o-ring. There is also a spring and small, removable valve piece inside that valve.

Here is a video by Fuel Tools... They are advertising how their tool can replace both o-rings, with the valve still installed in the tank. Part of the replacement process, removes all the internals of the valve. The video will give you a good idea of how that valve is assembled/works....


Good luck with the repair, but my best guess is that the fuel line is not fully seated/locked into the tank valve portion....
 

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While it's possible that the fitting can crack, it's pretty stout and shouldn't be damaged just from removing/attaching the quick disconnect...

First... make sure the bottom fuel line fitting is pushed all the way up into the tank valve portion and the spring collar mechanism on the tank valve portion, the same collar you need to push up to remove the fuel line, has sprung back down fully. Sometimes you need to push up on the fuel line while pulling down on the valve collar. You'll hear/feel it click when the fuel line is properly fitted and locked in...

If the fuel line is properly inserted and the spring collar is fully in it's down position, I would suspect it is more likely that one of the o-rings either was displaced or pinched causing the leak.

There are two o-rings in the tank portion of the valve. There is an upper and a lower o-ring. There is also a spring and small, removable valve piece inside that valve.

Here is a video by Fuel Tools... They are advertising how their tool can replace both o-rings, with the valve still installed in the tank. Part of the replacement process, removes all the internals of the valve. The video will give you a good idea of how that valve is assembled/works....

Good luck with the repair...
Thanks for the video hattitude. This really helps. Our internet was down last night and cellular data was really slow when I started searching. I'll check it out this evening after work.
 
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HELP!
Got the Fuel Tools kit and gonna rebuild the check valve. When I attempt to drain the tank internal fuel line as instructed I’m getting a constant trickle. Definitely more than the “small amount” as described in the instructions and shown in the video.
Is there a line from the pump to to the check valve?
Will I have to drain the tank?
Am I doing something wrong?
 
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It never hurts to drain your tank when working on or around it. I got a GasTapper kit that uses a bulb, valves, and small diameter hose. Just make sure you don't touch the filter pad

The pump runs to the valve. If you have a spare QD attachment you could just pump it out.

Mine leaked out a lot.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2021 | 08:11 PM
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It never hurts to drain your tank when working on or around it. I got a GasTapper kit that uses a bulb, valves, and small diameter hose. Just make sure you don't touch the filter pad

The pump runs to the valve. If you have a spare QD attachment you could just pump it out.

Mine leaked out a lot.
Well, I found the bottom o-ring to be brittle and damaged so that evidently was causing the intermittent leak. I resorted to replacing that one only and the leak is gone. However last time out it was intermittent missing at idle then shaking and sputtering at cruising speed. Did the same thing on test ride just now. Accelerates fine but I can’t put wifey on this thing in it’s current condition. The gas in it was bought at the same time I filled my King and I haven’t had an issue on well over a thousand miles. Could a piece or pieces of the damaged o-ring be the culprit?
 
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Well, I found the bottom o-ring to be brittle and damaged so that evidently was causing the intermittent leak. I resorted to replacing that one only and the leak is gone. However last time out it was intermittent missing at idle then shaking and sputtering at cruising speed. Did the same thing on test ride just now. Accelerates fine but I can’t put wifey on this thing in it’s current condition. The gas in it was bought at the same time I filled my King and I haven’t had an issue on well over a thousand miles. Could a piece or pieces of the damaged o-ring be the culprit?
I've had my modern Softail for just a few years so I'm far from an expert on the FI tech. If it seems you're fuel starving you could have an interal hose leak from the fuel pump to that connect inside your tank causing a low pressure. My first guess for what it's worth.

I had a problem with the filter pad falling apart and fuel pump failure long after my seperate O-ring QD leak.

It's not a big deal to dig around in that tank if you have do. Just don't expect your dealership to have any parts.
 
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Could be 2 things. Upper ring is bad also. Shouldn’t be on a 5 year old bike but possible. 2 Nd which I also question on a 5 year old bike is the line from fuel pump to the QD is cracked and sucking air. Possibly something else but those would be the first two things I would check.
 
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Well evidently I have a bad line in the tank. Drained the suspect fuel and replaced the fuel filter only to have the same erratic missing. Thanks to google research and this forum having some experienced posters I removed the cap and looked in the tank only to see fuel spray inside which is a telltale sign of a damaged plastic flex line. I’ll be ordering parts tomorrow if the local dealership doesn’t have them in stock.
 
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Originally Posted by CrimSonami
Well evidently I have a bad line in the tank. Drained the suspect fuel and replaced the fuel filter only to have the same erratic missing. Thanks to google research and this forum having some experienced posters I removed the cap and looked in the tank only to see fuel spray inside which is a telltale sign of a damaged plastic flex line. I’ll be ordering parts tomorrow if the local dealership doesn’t have them in stock.

Glad you found it...

Your bike is the newest bike I've heard/read about that flex line needing replacement... usually it's the early to about 2010 EFI Twin Cams that I've heard about with that problem...

Some people have replaced that flex hose section with a good quality, submersible fuel hose (like Gates #27097). I've not needed to do that repair yet, so not sure how easy the replacement is with the Gates hose, but have read about those who did it ...

Good luck with the repair...
 
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