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As I keep looking around while trying to keep my price point low for this bike, I've come across quite a few in the '02 - '05 range that could work but a lot of price variances of course.
2000 Fat Boy
8K miles
95ci big bore kit
Gear driven cams
Carbureted
New tires
I'd of course need to make certain every fluid has been addressed/brake lines flushed before I'd consider it depending on final price.
Do you think $6500 is a good price for this given it's got the 95cu in engine and gear-driven cams? I'm feeling a bit blind on a Fatty of this vintage so any opinion would be great! Lousy picture from my computer screen since the pic wouldn't download.
I would immediately change those pipes, bars, and seat, install a short throw brake pedal (if they are made for this model), lose those bags, store the windshield, and make sure the bags aren't mounted to anything that's an eyesore. You get the idea.
In other words, I'd spend a fair amount to get it as I'd want it....versus your '02 which was much closer. So I need to consider that in the price. Maybe he'll drop since it's this time of year and consider what I want to do but I don't need to steal it.
But the 95" big bore and gear drive cam tensioners, if installed properly, would have value to me......
I would want to see receipts to know who's big bore kit, what cam, what compression/pistons, and how it was tuned (just carb or carb and new ICM with spark advance features)... If it was done by a good shop, I wouldn't hesitate to offer $6K and maybe even go uo to his asking price of $6500, if it was in excellent shape, with good maintenance records, and a reputable shop doing the big bore install...
If he has receipts, but did the install himself, I would pay special attention to how it runs, how it was tuned, and listen closely to the cam gear noise....
Everybody (well, most everybody) knows to check for .003" or less run-out before installing gear drive cams, but many skip the step of checking for gear lash when setting up the gear drives...
I don't know why people skip the gear lash check, but anytime someone complains about gear drive "noise".... I suspect bad run out numbers, or improper gear lash.... Gear drives sound different from chain drive cams, but don't make excessive noise... at least mine never have... I have them in an S&S 124" crate engine.
From the S&S gear drive install instructions, under a "Caution" heading:
"Too much backlash can cause excessive gear noise or clicking caused by the reversing of the forces applied by the lifters to the cam lobes. Insufficient backlash, will cause gears to whine, wear prematurely, create excess heat, and may cause breaking of the gear teeth and engine failure."
2000 to 2002 feature the near bulletproof Timken "Lefty" bearing in the bottom end and then 95" with gear drives already installed? SOLD (if I was in the market.)
I recently picked up the '02 Low Rider below last year for the same really great motor as my primary goal.
I think it was good you never owned one. Just kidding.
Its carbed, which is good that era FI was MM. It has timken bearing. Since they went gears hopefully they changed out the rear cam bearing already. Normally I would think $6500 is to high.
As far as negoatiating price based on fluid change, how do you prove it?
I am rebuilding a 2010 fatboy and bought the kit sold by Jim's for the left bearing conversion. Would not even think about installing gear drives without the conversion. A lot of folks will say it is not necessary because the bearing is an upgrade on the 2010. I guess that might work ok but mites are found on a chicken's ***.
But the 95" big bore and gear drive cam tensioners, if installed properly, would have value to me......
I would want to see receipts to know who's big bore kit, what cam, what compression/pistons, and how it was tuned (just carb or carb and new ICM with spark advance features)... If it was done by a good shop, I wouldn't hesitate to offer $6K and maybe even go uo to his asking price of $6500, if it was in excellent shape, with good maintenance records, and a reputable shop doing the big bore install...
If he has receipts, but did the install himself, I would pay special attention to how it runs, how it was tuned, and listen closely to the cam gear noise....
Good luck with your decision and inspection...
Thanks for this great detail, Hattitude. He has a detailed receipt for the big bore kit. Appears to have been done by a dealer but I am guessing because the invoice has a line item for check for open campaigns and not sure if an Indy has access or not.
The big bore and S&S G-cams, race ignition (whatever that is), and brake pads were all done in 2004 at 2500 miles. Then he also has 4 pages of records of other work done here and there. He sent me a video.
The fork lowers are severely pitted and there are two decent sized areas in the right engine case with chrome peeling/flaking. Otherwise cosmetically not bad. Fork lowers, no big deal, Id prob replace them anyway but flaking chrome ??
I like the guy selling it as he seems like a straight shooter so it most about whether its a good enough deal at even $6K to have it sit in my parking garage until it warms up (long story)! 👍🏻
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